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Syele
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Well that’s not what was said, feel free to go back and read it.
So, according to this ‘Bible Only’ thing, since speed limits are not in the Bible, Saying it’s a sin to speed would be false doctrine?
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lak611
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I am not “Bible only”, but I do believe that the Bible is inerrant. So here’s mine:
Ephesians 2:8-9
Phillipians 2:12
Acts 2:38
John 3:16
Romans 10:9-10
1 Corinthians 2:2
John 6:54-56
John 11:25-26
Ephesians 2:8-9
Phillipians 2:12
Acts 2:38
John 3:16
Romans 10:9-10
1 Corinthians 2:2
John 6:54-56
John 11:25-26
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DRIVING_BEAR
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all of the verses refered to in the thread are good
my personal favorite is theMat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. last half of Matt 28:20
my personal favorite is theMat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. last half of Matt 28:20
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Pjs2ejs
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As a Catholic, I don’t stand on any one because they are all pieces of the total slavation history of Jesus Christ. To limit myself to one verse would be ignorant. The entire Old and New Testaments are what I stand on and I trust the interpretation of the magesterium of the church to guide me through all of the verses.
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Chris_LaRock
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Mat 15:1 Then came to him from Jerusalem scribes and Pharisees, saying:
Mat 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the ancients? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Mat 15:3 But he answering, said to them: Why do you also transgress the commandment of God for your tradition? For God said:
Mat 15:4 Honour thy father and mother: And: He that shall curse father or mother, let him die the death.
Mat 15:5 But you say: Whosoever shall say to father or mother, The gift whatsoever proceedeth from me, shall profit thee.
Mat 15:6 And he shall not honour his father or his mother: and you have made void the commandment of God for your tradition.
Tradition has it’s place, but it should never take the place of God’s inspired word.
Mat 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the ancients? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Mat 15:3 But he answering, said to them: Why do you also transgress the commandment of God for your tradition? For God said:
Mat 15:4 Honour thy father and mother: And: He that shall curse father or mother, let him die the death.
Mat 15:5 But you say: Whosoever shall say to father or mother, The gift whatsoever proceedeth from me, shall profit thee.
Mat 15:6 And he shall not honour his father or his mother: and you have made void the commandment of God for your tradition.
Tradition has it’s place, but it should never take the place of God’s inspired word.
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Legal_Eagle
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Hmmmmmmmm…
So then I suppose Matthew 25: 31-46 just doesn’t cut the mustard. What do you “Bible only” folks do with that one when you form your opinions on Salvation?
So then I suppose Matthew 25: 31-46 just doesn’t cut the mustard. What do you “Bible only” folks do with that one when you form your opinions on Salvation?
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teachccd
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You are so right.
We all have favorite verses but the entire bible is salvation history. To say that one verse is better than another is ignorant when speaking the truth of salvation. But then I’m not a “Bible only” believer because that’s not what Peter, James, John, all of the apostles, Paul or any of the first through fourth century Church were. Then after canon was acknowledged most people were illiterate so bibles were of no use. Also, no printing presses would not allow for common folks to have their very own bible.“Bible only” Christianity was unheard of before the protestant revolt so this whole concept of finding “special” verses for salvation is ludicrous.:whacky:
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Sixtus
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Where in the bible does it say that?
What about the canon of authentic Scripture that is not in the bible. How do advocates of sola scriptura explain that?
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Sixtus
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If you do not accept the tradition of the church then why accept her tradition of keepng sacred writings?
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teachccd
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God’s inspired Word flows from Sacred Tradition. Without Tradition you would have no bible. That’s why I could never leave the Catholic Church. I could never bring myself to believe that the bible fell from the sky bound as a book and I could be the official interpreter. By the way, God’s Word is our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. When He ascended He left behind a Church not a bible. And from that Church sacred Scripture was written and acknowledged. The incarnate Christ lives through His Church which is guided by the Holy Spirit. That would be the same Holy Spirit that inspired the authors of Scripture and the same Spirit who guides the Church to interpret it today. The Church is one in one Spirit of truth. Oh and by the way again, that’s in the Bible.:banghead:
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Chris_LaRock
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I wasn’t attacking tradition. Tradition is eluded to in scripture. Jude speaks about a conflict between Michael the Archangel and satan over the body of Moses.
Jude 1:9 When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Jesus makes the following statement in John 8:
John 8:56 Abraham your father rejoiced that he might see my day: he saw it and was glad.
None of these events are recorded in the Old Testament scriptures, so all I can only conclude these passages are based upon Jewish oral traditions.
Jude 1:9 When Michael the archangel, disputing with the devil, contended about the body of Moses, he durst not bring against him the judgment of railing speech, but said: The Lord command thee.
Jesus makes the following statement in John 8:
John 8:56 Abraham your father rejoiced that he might see my day: he saw it and was glad.
None of these events are recorded in the Old Testament scriptures, so all I can only conclude these passages are based upon Jewish oral traditions.
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Mannyfit75
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Well the Bible doesn’t say it. Maybe 2 Tim 3:16-17Where in the bible does it say that?
What about the canon of authentic Scripture that is not in the bible. How do advocates of sola scriptura explain that?
Nope… it doesn’t. It only say, All scripture is inspired by God and useful for teachings, corrections, training in righteous,… but it doesn’t scripture by itself or Scripture Alone…
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teachccd
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Yes,and no less inspired teachings and we are a Judeo-Christian faith…Thank you for seeing Sacred Tradition and providing some supporting verses…
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Chris_LaRock
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Like I said, Tradition has it’s place. However, scripture is still important too.
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lak611
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I agree 100%. We must have and use both.
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teachccd
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Chris, I could not agree with you more. Scripture is authoritative but not the sole source of revelation. Our deposit of faith springs from Scripture and Tradition, both inspired and authoritative. The Catholic Church NEVER puts Scripture below Sacred Tradition as both are a result of the revelation received from the one Spirit of Truth…God Bless
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saint24
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you know what big brother or sister i agree with you 100 percent:thumbsup: don’t strap it up keep it in. if you are unmarried and need affection find it in the lord.
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Chris_LaRock
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A lot of people assume that the presence of tradition in Catholicism means that scriptures have been demoted in importance.
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lak611
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That is untrue. Both are of equal importance.
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teachccd
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As I stated before, Sacred Tradition and Scripture flow from the same wellspring and are equally important. Those assuming folks that you refer to are just simply wrong. People may assume many things but there is only one Truth. God Bless
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