To and From The Catholic church

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For the sake of my use of Catholic church, I will define it as after the schism and just the sees aligned under the authority the pope…Not the church catholic with all the sees together…I have a friend who left the Catholic church to be a “regular” christian…She had decided that what she had to take by faith about the CC is no longer believable to her…My question is to those who left or for protestants who changed, how long did it take for you believe everything…Like say the separated brethren thing and leaving the CC church is like walking away from Jesus…Joining the CC takes a leap of faith above the leap of faith just being a regular christian…Are there still, for those who turned Catholic, struggles believing some things…For those who left, how long did it take to release yourself from all that you chose to believe before ? This is not a debate thread, please keep it charitable…Grace and peace to you…K
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I converted to the CC along time ago, about 1991 from Protestantism. I have never been at rest in my soul about the decision to convert to the Catholic Church and I have been back and forth many, many times. It took me no time to believe the CC doctrines and no time to not believe the non Biblical ones, I am still not convinced the CC is the Church.

I am still very unsure and confused and to be quite honest I wish I never thought of or heard of the Catholic Church. Right now I am contemplating leaving again after I hear from the vortex that the Bishop conference is practically in bed with the Democratic party and I am a Creationist which seems at odds with the Catholic Church as it seems from this site. So there you have it I am a staunch Conservative and Creationist and I don’t think the CC has room for the likes of me.
 
historyb said:
I converted to the CC along time ago, about 1991 from Protestantism. I have never been at rest in my soul about the decision to convert to the Catholic Church and I have been back and forth many, many times. It took me no time to believe the CC doctrines and no time to not believe the non Biblical ones, I am still not convinced the CC is the Church.
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Do you beleive in the doctrine of transubstantiation?
I am still very unsure and confused and to be quite honest I wish I never thought of or heard of the Catholic Church. Right now I am contemplating leaving again after I hear from the vortex that the Bishop conference is practically in bed with the Democratic party and I am a Creationist which seems at odds with the Catholic Church as it seems from this site. So there you have it I am a staunch Conservative and Creationist and I don’t think the CC has room for the likes of me.
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In all honesty i am not sure if there is a doctrine fixed in this regard,other than that God is the creator of all things.
 
Just a little observation: some read scripture leading them back into the Church and other read the same scripture out of the Church…to me that kinda shows the weakness of using scripture alone as the only guide…
 
fbl9 said:
Do you beleive in the doctrine of transubstantiation?
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Hmm, never gave it much thought really. Does the bread and wine become real?
fbl9 said:
[In all honesty i am not sure if there is a doctrine fixed in this regard,other than that God is the creator of all things.
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From a majority of Catholics I meet on forums it seems a huge thing.
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fbl9 said:
Just a little observation: some read scripture leading them back into the Church and other read the same scripture out of the Church…to me that kinda shows the weakness of using scripture alone as the only guide…
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I believe if one went by Scripture alone one would flee as fast as on could from the CC, there is much in the CC not in Scripture.
 
historyb said:
Hmm, never gave it much thought really. Does the bread and wine become real?

From a majority of Catholics I meet on forums it seems a huge thing.
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It is the center of our Christian worship, THE BODY , BLOOD , SOUL AND DIVINITY OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.:signofcross:Carlan
 
Hiskid1973 said:
So you don’t think there are Christians outside the church of Rome…Or do you mean small “c” catholic…As for BC, cohabitation or abortion they are in their 50’ s(married for a while) and are a very godly couple…BTW, How long were you protestant?
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Did I say that there were no Christians outside of the Catholic Church? Absolutely not! I said that Christians outside of Christ’s Church are ‘incomplete’, meaning, the understanding of their Faith is not complete because they have limited themselves from the revelation that God has given through His Church.

It doesn’t matter what age people are, if they leave the Church they do it either because they do not agree with some of its moral teachings, the Eucharist, or they had been engaged in a behavior that the Church does not accept. People just don’t up and leave the Church for no reason.

By the way, there is no lower case ‘c’ to describe anyone who is Catholic or non-Catholic. To be Catholic is to belong to Christ’s Church. You can’t have an upper ‘C’ and at the same time describe oneself as a lower ‘c’, unless you are referring to legitimately baptized protestants, who are separated brethren yet share in the graces and fortitude from the Church Herself.
 
historyb said:
Hmm, never gave it much thought really. Does the bread and wine become real?
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a simple no would have sufficed
From a majority of Catholics I meet on forums it seems a huge thing.
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Personally i don’t believe i am an “intelligent” monkey or what ever,but rather a human as God made me…science has yet to provide the “misssing link”…
 
historyb said:
I believe if one went by Scripture alone one would flee as fast as on could from the CC, there is much in the CC not in Scripture.
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and scripture showed me the reason to come back,and not just myself but many many others…:)so there:p
 
fbl9 said:
One can not find the doctrine of transubstantiation in in scripture, so there is more than just holy writ that you use as a basis of what to believe.
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Yes one can find it in Scripture 🙂
 
historyb said:
I converted to the CC along time ago, about 1991 from Protestantism. I have never been at rest in my soul about the decision to convert to the Catholic Church and I have been back and forth many, many times. It took me no time to believe the CC doctrines and no time to not believe the non Biblical ones, I am still not convinced the CC is the Church.

I am still very unsure and confused and to be quite honest I wish I never thought of or heard of the Catholic Church. Right now I am contemplating leaving again after I hear from the vortex that the Bishop conference is practically in bed with the Democratic party and I am a Creationist which seems at odds with the Catholic Church as it seems from this site. So there you have it I am a staunch Conservative and Creationist and I don’t think the CC has room for the likes of me.
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Hello historyb,I am sorry to know that you are going through a confused and unsure time as far as Church is concerned, I will say prayers.
The Catholic Church and her Bishops have always been concerned about the social justice and welfare of her people. It has always made moral judgments about economics and social matters when fundamental rights of the person or of souls require it.

In the moral order she bears a mission distinct from that of political authorities.
The Church is concerned with the common good. She strives to inspire right attitudes with respect to earthly goods and in socio-economic relationships. But perhaps this is getting off topic and belongs in another forum.

If it will help to learn more about social justice and the Church you can go to:
CCC Life in Christ section-Article 7, God bless your Advent and have a blessed Christmas.:)Carlan
 
historyb said:
I believe if one went by Scripture alone one would flee as fast as on could from the CC, there is much in the CC not in Scripture.
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Will you please give some examples? My first thoughts when reading this are the Assumption of Mary and the Immaculate Conception.

God Bless!
 
Carlan said:
Hello historyb,I am sorry to know that you are going through a confused and unsure time as far as Church is concerned, I will say prayers.
The Catholic Church and her Bishops have always been concerned about the social justice and welfare of her people. It has always made moral judgments about economics and social matters when fundamental rights of the person or of souls require it.

In the moral order she bears a mission distinct from that of political authorities.
The Church is concerned with the common good. She strives to inspire right attitudes with respect to earthly goods and in socio-economic relationships. But perhaps this is getting off topic and belongs in another forum.

If it will help to learn more about social justice and the Church you can go to:
CCC Life in Christ section-Article 7, God bless your Advent and have a blessed Christmas.:)Carlan
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I am not concerned about the stance on social justice, I am concerned about them being in bed with liberals. I don’t cotton much to liberals, I do believe it a mistake that I as a die hard Conservative to join the Church. I most likely have more in common with Conservative Protestants in regard to my outlook then Catholics
 
emeraldcoast said:
Will you please give some examples? My first thoughts when reading this are the Assumption of Mary and the Immaculate Conception.

God Bless!
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Well also could be included with that list is Papal Supremacy (I know all the arguments), Purgatory (again I know all the arguments), Praying to Saints (I know all those Arguments too)
 
historyb said:
I am not concerned about the stance on social justice, I am concerned about them being in bed with liberals. I don’t cotton much to liberals, I do believe it a mistake that I as a die hard Conservative to join the Church. I most likely have more in common with Conservative Protestants in regard to my outlook then Catholics
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Well History, as Catholics I do believe we are called to listen to and abide by Jesus Sermon on the Mount. And I respectfully believe political comments are better rec’d else where.;):)Carlan
 
See there’s what I mean. I am conservative in all areas of my Life, I was right being a Catholic was wrong
 
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