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Th eKoran doesnt lie, and Ishmael is a Ligetamete son as much as the children of Israel are ligitamate. Half teh childern of israel are sons of ex servants of Jacob wives whom he later married. All of them are his sons without exception . It is just convenient christian wise to call ishmael illigetamate.

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A child born out of wedlock is illegitimate. Ishmael was the son of Abraham’s Egypian maid and not his wife. Isaac was born of Abraham’s wife Sarah and was legitimate.

And of course the Koran lies! For example in the Koran the divinity of Jesus is denied.
 
A child born out of wedlock is illegitimate. Ishmael was the son of Abraham’s Egypian maid and not his wife. Isaac was born of Abraham’s wife Sarah and was legitimate.

And of course the Koran lies! For example in the Koran the divinity of Jesus is denied.
While this may be true of Christianity, Abraham wasn’t Christian and legitimacy doesn’t follow the same rules in Jewish tradition as in Christian.
 
A child born out of wedlock is illegitimate. Ishmael was the son of Abraham’s Egypian maid and not his wife. Isaac was born of Abraham’s wife Sarah and was legitimate.

And of course the Koran lies! For example in the Koran the divinity of Jesus is denied.
Ishmael wasnt born out of wedlock . Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham as a wife. The torah explicitly says that !!! Are you accusing Abraham of sin?!!

i am amazed of you accusing Abraham of somthing a regular believer would be much hesitant to do!!!

And would you explain then how the children of israel werent a result of sin then???
 
Ishmael wasnt born out of wedlock . Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham as a wife. The torah explicitly says that !!! **Are you accusing Abraham of sin?!! **

i am amazed of you accusing Abraham of somthing a regular believer would be much hesitant to do!!!

And would you explain then how the children of israel werent a result of sin then???
Why, do you think he didn’t sin?
 
Why, do you think he didn’t sin?
Not the sin of fornication for Gdos sake!! All Humans make mistakes and sin . But its outright silly to say that BOTH jacob and Abraham commited adultry !!! And guess what !! No where God condemns them for this!!!

Ishmael is Ligetanmite as Isac is . It just doesnt fit well with Christian theology!!!
 
Not the sin of fornication for Gdos sake!! All Humans make mistakes and sin . But its outright silly to say that BOTH jacob and Abraham commited adultry !!! And guess what !! No where God condemns them for this!!!

Ishmael is Ligetanmite as Isac is . It just doesnt fit well with Christian theology!!!
Don’t forget that it was Isaac and NOT Ishmael that God asked Abraham to offer as a sacrifice.
 
You need to bend over backwards so hard to be able to remotely believe in the Christian Dogma.

Thats my opinion,
This is the silliness of Islam. Islam claims that God is all powerful, yet Moslems deny that the Christian concept of God is conceivable/possible. You champion an all powerful being who is beyond human conception then think that if you can’t conceive of God as told by Christians, it’s impossible!

Your concept of god is beyond human description. Ultimately, so is the Christian one, only as you state here, your impossible conception makes more sense than ours ROFL

Other silly notions are that it claims to respect the teachings of the People’s of the Book, but orders them to be forced into submission (those it doesn’t kill).

Moslems believe their god is a deceiver. It’s in the Koran that Al-lah caused people to think that Jesus had died.

Another thing Moslems seem to have no problem with is that God sent messenger after messenger to the same lineage, from Adam down to Jesus (as this people formed into the Jews). Then suddenly, 600 years later God gives up on His promise, and sends a messenger to the Arabs!

Moslems have a unique way on twisting words. If all women are treated as less then men, that’s deemed ‘equitable’.

A claim is made that Jesus is just another human, yet He’s born of a virgin, miraculously.

Moslems claim that Koran was dictated by their god, yet there’s many verses clearly spoken by Muhammad as first person.

Moslems just switch off critical thinking towards the behaviour of their own founder and try all manner of arguments to justify the fact he sexually abused a young child. Muhammad also over-saw the execution of PoWs. He celebrated the assassination of political and social enemies.

That’s not just my opinion
 
This is the silliness of Islam. Islam claims that God is all powerful, yet Moslems deny that the Christian concept of God is conceivable/possible. You champion an all powerful being who is beyond human conception then think that if you can’t conceive of God as told by Christians, it’s impossible!

Your concept of god is beyond human description. Ultimately, so is the Christian one, only as you state here, your impossible conception makes more sense than ours ROFL

Other silly notions are that it claims to respect the teachings of the People’s of the Book, but orders them to be forced into submission (those it doesn’t kill).

Moslems believe their god is a deceiver. It’s in the Koran that Al-lah caused people to think that Jesus had died.

Another thing Moslems seem to have no problem with is that God sent messenger after messenger to the same lineage, from Adam down to Jesus (as this people formed into the Jews). Then suddenly, 600 years later God gives up on His promise, and sends a messenger to the Arabs!

Moslems have a unique way on twisting words. If all women are treated as less then men, that’s deemed ‘equitable’.

A claim is made that Jesus is just another human, yet He’s born of a virgin, miraculously.

Moslems claim that Koran was dictated by their god, yet there’s many verses clearly spoken by Muhammad as first person.

Moslems just switch off critical thinking towards the behaviour of their own founder and try all manner of arguments to justify the fact he sexually abused a young child. Muhammad also over-saw the execution of PoWs. He celebrated the assassination of political and social enemies.

That’s not just my opinion
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