To Quote LDS Prophets....

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This is the forum to discuss non-Catholic religions, not the forum where only non-Catholics can start a thread.
I think they are contesting our right to start Mormon-related threads. And our right to discuss the BoM. And our right to discuss their re-writing of history. And our right to discuss teachings of Mormon “prophets.”

Truly “white privilege” gone amok.
 
LOL So true. And insecurity is what is behind it. The insecurity of a system of belief built on sand.
 
You have a real difficult time with relevancy don’t you?

1 and 3 are the same statement. The answer goes to there person’s posting behavior, which establishes their viewpoint.
  1. Nobody slandered anybody. You really need to watch what you’re saying here.
    I believe Michael has closed several threads because they were “resurrected” old threads.
I believe he put a 5 year limit on it, but I’m not 100% sure, but here you go anyway.

Enjoy eating your words.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=224517

While you’re at it, do a google search for Missionaries desecrate Catholic Shrine. I believe you can still find the pictures they posted on the internet.
1 & 3 were the same, to improve your comprehension rate

Darn, the topic is 4 yrs old so the story links are now dead. Obviously there is no excuse for that type of behavior.

How am i eating my words? I stand by
  • sins of the past do not justify sins of today (for your comprehension)
 
1 & 3 were the same, to improve your comprehension rate

Darn, the topic is 4 yrs old so the story links are now dead. Obviously there is no excuse for that type of behavior.

How am i eating my words? I stand by
  • sins of the past do not justify sins of today (for your comprehension)
So, you have to resort to childish remarks? You should be so proud.

As I suggested in my earlier post, do a google search for Missionaries desecrate Catholic Shrine, and you will find news reports, and some of the images that were originally posted.

By the way, this is 2010, the thread, and the incident was brought to light in 2008.
2010-2008=2 yrs.

I guess since 2 yrs had passed since their deeds, they thought it was safe to post the pics.
 
1 & 3 were the same, to improve your comprehension rate

Darn, the topic is 4 yrs old so the story links are now dead. Obviously there is no excuse for that type of behavior.

How am i eating my words? I stand by
  • sins of the past do not justify sins of today (for your comprehension)
How about these words? I will type them slowly to help your comprehesion.
We respond to LDS questions and stated falsehoods, be they malicious or innocent :banghead: Threads from two posters that I mentioned are baiting from the start.
We post 99% in this “Other Religion” forum, rarely starting a thread Figures from 2 posters given to you in a different post, prove differently.
Here is a thread from yet another lds poster.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=395150

Check out the rest of his threads. Obviously he was baiting Catholics.

It is something we see quite often.
 
So, you have to resort to childish remarks? You should be so proud.

As I suggested in my earlier post, do a google search for Missionaries desecrate Catholic Shrine, and you will find news reports, and some of the images that were originally posted.

By the way, this is 2010, the thread, and the incident was brought to light in 2008.
2010-2008=2 yrs.

I guess since 2 yrs had passed since their deeds, they thought it was safe to post the pics.
Yup, i read a Join date and not the thread date. I did find more details through google, thanks for reminding me of the obvious. 👍 😊

My apologies, slander was the wrong term to use, to describe introducing a 2yr old episode into this thread. But I agree we should not forget sins of the past, lest they be repeated.
 
How about these words? I will type them slowly to help your comprehesion.

Here is a thread from yet another lds poster.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=395150

Check out the rest of his threads. Obviously he was baiting Catholics.

It is something we see quite often.
Yes, the guy was picking a fight. I certainly respect the decision of your Mod to ban the guy if that was normal behavior.

Now, how does this bad behavior in the past justify it’s practice now, by Catholic or LDS on CAF?
 
Yes, the guy was picking a fight. I certainly respect the decision of your Mod to ban the guy if that was normal behavior.

Now, how does this bad behavior in the past justify it’s practice now, by Catholic or LDS on CAF?
I don’t know if I would use the word justify.

However, I will say, A leopard cannot change his spots.

It holds true no matter which side of the subject a poster is on.
 
I don’t know if I would use the word justify.

However, I will say, A leopard cannot change his spots.

It holds true no matter which side of the subject a poster is on.
Re your leopard-spots idiom makes the case for banning individual people. I just hope you were not inferring all LDS are of this nature, because of the two spotted posters flagged by you.
 
Re your leopard-spots idiom makes the case for banning individual people. I just hope you were not inferring all LDS are of this nature, because of the two spotted posters flagged by you.
LOL, sometimes you just make me giggle.

Did you read the next line? "It holds true no matter which side of the subject a poster is on. "

It means, Catholic and LDS both.

Something you have to keep in mind, when new posters come to a forum, guns a blazing, so to speak, the person on their home turf such as here at CAF, are going to be very defensive. I have seen the same thing happen at madb.

After it happens several times, unfortunately, it becomes the norm to be defensive. Again, it happens here, and at madb. Nobody is immune.
 
Can you please cite the Biblical verses that show that prophets are always speaking the word of God, and have foresight in everything, and therefore are not allowed to be human?

Unfortunately, the standard that LDS critics attempt to hold our prophets to is not a standard that is based on the Biblical portrayal of prophets.
Caprica - The prophets of the Old Testament had several things in common ( taken from catholic resources and a biblical studies article by douglas stuart):
  1. They always called people to repent and to return to their faith.
  2. They always conveyed messages from God rather than speaking on their own.
  3. Their message of faith and repentance is timeless and applies to people of all ages and cultures, even today.
  4. Their prophecies about the future are always warning people to turn away from evil and return to God in order to avoid disaster.
The prophets of the OT performed five tasks (taken from the New American Bible encylopedic dictionary):
  1. reminded the people to fulfill their covenant obligations of the Mosaic Law
  2. became advisers of kings
  3. defended the poor, widows, and the orphans
  4. heralded the coming of the Messiah and Messianic age
  5. sometimes foretold the future
**If JS is like a prophet of the OT, then he would have followed the same pattern in his prophecies. **

Biblical references for prophets and false prophets:

Prophets

1 Corinthians 12:28 - Some people God has designated in the church to be, first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then, mighty deeds; then gifts of **healing, **assistance, administration, and varities of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:4 - Whoever speaks in a tongue builds himself up, but whoever prophesies builds up the church.

2 Peter 1:20-21 - Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.

False prophets


Jeremiah 23:14 - But among Jerusalem’s prophets I saw deeds still more shocking: Adultery, living in lies, siding with the wicked, so that no one turns from evil; To me
they are like Sodom, its citizens like Gomorrah.

Jeremiah 23:32 - Yes, I am against the prophets who prophesy lying dreams, says the Lord, and who lead my people astray by recounting their lies and by their empty boasting. From me they have no mission or command, and they do this people no good at all, says the Lord.

Deuteronomy 18:21-22 - "If you say to yourselves, ‘How can we recognize an oracle which the Lord has spoken?’, know that, even though a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if his oracle is not fulfilled or verfiied, it is an oracle which the Lord did not speak. the prophet has spoken it resumptuously, and you shall have no fear of him.

Revelation 22:18 - I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book: **if anyone **adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book and if anyone takes away from the words in this prophetic book, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city described in this book.

Matthew 7:15-16 - Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenouse wolves. By their fruits you will know them.

2 Peter 2:1 - There are also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, **who will introduce destructive heresies **and even deny the Master who ransomed them.

Please show how LDS prophets are like those of the Bible and not like those warned about as false prophets.
 
Can you please cite the Biblical verses that show that prophets are always speaking the word of God, and have foresight in everything, and therefore are not allowed to be human?

Unfortunately, the standard that LDS critics attempt to hold our prophets to is not a standard that is based on the Biblical portrayal of prophets.
Also from the Didache (or Teaching of the Twelve Apostles)-

Not everyone, however, who speaks in a spirit is a prophet, unless he have the behavior of the Lord. By his behavior, then, the false prophet and the true prophet shall be known.
 
Also from the Didache (or Teaching of the Twelve Apostles)-

Not everyone, however, who speaks in a spirit is a prophet, unless he have the behavior of the Lord. By his behavior, then, the false prophet and the true prophet shall be known.
Heavenly Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit, and Prophets and Apostles, they don’t need defending. They can defend themselves through their actions and words and deeds. You would think if Smith was a Prophet he would be like them, able to take care of himself or God would take care of him. Instead the LDS church has to keep changing history, falsifying history, hiding history; it’s really suspicious. It’s almost like they know it’s all one big scam but have to keep playing this game.
 
It’s almost like they know it’s all one big scam but have to keep playing this game.
I have seen that. The are scared of losing their jobs. However, I think that the top leadership is so isolated from the rest of American society that they have never had a real challenge to their thinking.
 
Heavenly Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit, and Prophets and Apostles, they don’t need defending. They can defend themselves through their actions and words and deeds. You would think if Smith was a Prophet he would be like them, able to take care of himself or God would take care of him. Instead the LDS church has to keep changing history, falsifying history, hiding history; it’s really suspicious. It’s almost like they know it’s all one big scam but have to keep playing this game.
There is no doubt that we are warned several times in both the Old and New Testaments to be on the lookout for false prophets, therefore God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Prophets, and the Apostles knew at least one would be coming.

They left us a criteria to follow and it must be followed.

God does not want us to be snatched up by a wolf in sheep’s clothing - He wants us to be safe with the Great Shepherd, Jesus, together in one flock.

Do Mormons think it is possible that Joseph Smith is a false prophet based on the criteria provided in the Bible and the Didache?
 
I have seen that. The are scared of losing their jobs. However, I think that the top leadership is so isolated from the rest of American society that they have never had a real challenge to their thinking.
I know there is loads of pressure to stay (or at least to let the spouse and kids stay) when someone wants to leave. I also firmly believe that it is the lifestyle that keeps them in the LDS church. Some people like lots of structure.
 
Some people like lots of structure.
Particularly when they have been conditioned to believe that without that structure they will descend into sin and mental illness.
 
that is what a cult does: it pressures you to stay. It makes very difficult to leave. If you leave, you lose family and friends…
 
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