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[TNT]

dwc:

Are the same people posting the same question over and over, or are they different people? If they are different, I look at it like this: maybe they didn’t look through the forum before they posted their question, so they didn’t see the prior threads and answers. It would be better to see if your question has been answered or already being discussed before starting a new thread, but obviously people aren’t doing that. If a person is in a place where they are struggling with the church or they are trying to understand the faith, in which the church’s attitudes about things which affect women are VERY different from our culture, then what is better for the church: to answer their question and help them understand the church’s position, or to just basically tell them to shut up?

** Which approach is more likely to get a person to open their heart to the church and study more and become a more faithful** Catholic? I’m sure repeating yourself about this is very trying – that’s why I said the posters who answer these posts and share their knowledge are generous, patient and grace filled.

**VERY WELL.
How about if YOU post the most cogent, kind, considerate, empathetic, “grace-filled, generous, patient” REASONS WHY the True Church of Christ, The Catholic Church, DOES NOT nor will She EVER ordain non-male Priests, bishops, or popes.
I hereby assign this loving task to you, since the rest of us are too “heavy handed”.
Now, we await your reasons!
For I may have missed it, but I don’t remember a SINGLE reason you have given to support the Catholic Deposit of Faith on this matter, as a FAITHFUL Catholic.
One last “heavy handed”:
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“Thus saith the Lord: Stand ye on the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, which is the good way, and walk ye in it: and you shall find refreshment for your souls. And they said: We will not walk.” (Jeremias 6:16)

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[romano]

Shoshana:

There is no open window on women becoming priests. Let the subject just die already… Not too many of us are interested…well…those who believe in Catholicism anyway.

Shoshana, you are absolutely right!

 

[dwc]

Let me just say I am not in favor of women priests.

That’s from one of my posts above, TNT. Did you bother to read it before going off and shouting at me in all your blue capital letters? I’ll say it a third time: I don’t advocate or support the idea of women priests. I do advocate treating people with respect and not dismissing what might be honest seekers. I don’t want to argue with you, and I won’t shout back at you. In fact, I promise to avoid you from now on.

 

[Donna_P]

ByzCath:

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So why the endless discussion. Everyone knows what the Church teaches, its a done deal. .

The problem is that not “everyone” knows and understands. The people I talk to (Catholic and otherwise) don’t understand that it is Jesus who started this. They think it is something some men in the Catholic Church cooked up and don’t know why we don’t sway with the times.

This Forum is great - but just becuase many of us (in this Forum) are committed Catholics - doesn’t mean the rest of the world is too.

Keep Praying! Keep Evangelizing! Get the Word out! God is GREAT!

God Bless,
Donna

 

[TNT]

dwc:

That’s from one of my posts above, TNT. Did you bother to read it before going off and shouting at me in all your blue capital letters? I’ll say it a third time: I don’t advocate or support the idea of women priests. I do advocate treating people with respect and not dismissing what might be honest seekers. I don’t want to argue with you, and I won’t shout back at you. In fact, I promise to avoid you from now on.

                          Let me just say I am not in favor of women priests.

Now there’s a really good cogent, empathetic, generous, patient, grace-filled all-encompassing REASON… As if you not being in favor has a thing to do with a REASON.:nope:

 

[Steve_Andersen]

ByzCath:

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Currently if you do a search on the forum for “Women’s Ordination” you get 20 threads, on “Women Priest” you get 20 threads, I did not look but I am sure some, if not all, are the same threads in those two searchs.

So we need to give the same teaching 20 times? …

How many threads are there on “call no man father” or “sola scriptura”(sp) or any number of issues?

Nothing wrong with talking

you don’t stop going to Mass becuase you heard the readings already do you?

To my mind the struggle and wrestling with the issues is the most important part or our life journey.

And no, despite what the reptile part of my brain says, I’m not interested in seeing how many colors and sizes we can get TNT to post in

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

Steve Andersen:

How many threads are there on “call no man father” or “sola scriptura”(sp) or any number of issues?

This is kind of comparing apples to oranges, as it is usually non-catholics who bring up the two topics you are talking about and it is mostly people who claim to be catholics that want to talk about women’s ordination.

Nothing wrong with talking

No, nothing wrong with talking but it seems that many think that by talking they will get a change.

you don’t stop going to Mass becuase you heard the readings already do you?

Totally different thing.

To my mind the struggle and wrestling with the issues is the most important part or our life journey.

Yes it is, but it appears that I take a different approach than many here do. When I am struggling and wrestling with an issue where the Church teaches one thing and I believe another I give consent to the Church and work to reform my beliefs, rather than discussing an issue to death trying to make the Church change.

And no, despite what the reptile part of my brain says, I’m not interested in seeing how many colors and sizes we can get TNT to post in

I want to see more of that!

 

[BillyT92679]

1. It’s been expalined *ad nauseam *by the Holy Father, his predecessors, this Forum, CA’s Apologetics, and all the way back to the beginning.
Your problem is that you do not accept it. That being so, you promote an heretical position. So, your argument about explaining is nothing but a thinly veiled position against the True Church of Christ, and the way that Christ intended for Her to be organized…to Teach, to Rule, To Sanctify all mankind.
2. Yes. Infallible Teaching, the Deposit of Faith is CATHOLIC. You want a protestant democratic “we are church” religion. Unfortunately, you have not yet realized that you can only find it OUTSIDE the True Church of Christ.
Carry on your HERESY promo. We all see what you are doing. So it won’t persuade any Faithful Catholic.

To be fair, she wrote she was not in favor of women priests. I think it’s best to a bit more charitable in posting.

I think we don’t need to talk about this any further. It has been talked to death and is not open to discussion any further. The Church cannot ordain women to the priesthood. It is an ontological reality. Only men can be Priests.

Debate on ordaining or not ordaining married men to the priesthood is an interesting discussion and is certainly open to debate since it is not an article of faith like male only ordination is.

 

[romano]

Shoshana:

There is no open window on women becoming priests. Let the subject just die already… Not too many of us are interested…well…those who believe in Catholicism anyway.

Christ is risen…truly he is risen!
Shoshana

Yes. I agree. Let it die.

 

[Giennensis]

I also think this issue is not for an open thread. I’m interesting in this subject, but if I have something to ask I always do privately, thoygh it’s always for secondary purpouses, since I know this issue has been definitely closed.

So, this thread should be closed

 

[savone]

Steve Andersen:

To my mind the struggle and wrestling with the issues is the most important part of our life journey.

Your observation sounds as if it could be a topic for a thread of its own. Yes, how in our “struggle and wrestling with the issues” in our life’s journey are we faithful and show others the Christ.

 

[Stylteralmaldo]

miguel delgado:

…lately this forum has been buzzing with the idea of women priests and ordenation (i personaly dont agree) but i also think they should made there case, can you guys give us some place in these forum about this subject…

This question was just asked in the “Ask an Apologist” section:

Did Christ ordain Mary Magdalene?

 

[joshua1]

I cant remeber where I read it, but I think I remember reading somewhere that Pope JPII stated that it was disobedience just to be discussing it. If that is true, why would we ever dedicate a whole forum to something that is a done deal and posibly even be disobedient to even discuss it?

 

[contemplative]

miguel delgado:

Hey boys and girls:
lately this forum has been buzzing with the idea of women priests and ordenation (i personaly dont agree) but i also think they should made there case, can you guys give us some place in these forum about this subject. (like the one on terry shiavo or the pope.

thanks

Puleeeze, spare us all!