To the Episcopalians

[PattyPryor]

Hi I liked the service I went to but could you give me some good websites that explain the relogion a bit more. I know it is very close to Catholics but any websites would be wonderful thanks

 

[emeraldcoast]

Hi I liked the service I went to but could you give me some good websites that explain the relogion a bit more. I know it is very close to Catholics but any websites would be wonderful thanks

Hi PattyPryor,

I hope that the following link is helpful to answer some of your questions about the Episcopal Church.
episcopalchurch.org/visitors.htm

God Bless!

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Hi I liked the service I went to but could you give me some good websites that explain the relogion a bit more. I know it is very close to Catholics but any websites would be wonderful thanks

It is quite a stretch to think that the Episcopal Church is close to Catholicism. If you consider wearing vestments “close to Catholicism” then so be it. In morality, common sense, and respect for Church history/tradition they are worlds apart. If you are pondering Anglicanism, I seriously recommend you attend an ACNA or REC Anglican parish or some other continuing Anglican parish. The Episcopal Church is a sinful, morally-bankrupt, disgrace to Christendom with no redeeming qualities save it’s coffee hour…Look before you leap with this group. Go to virtueonline. David Virtue and other Anglicans who have respect for the traditions and dignity of Anglicanism find the Episcopal Church repulsive. If you want to say the Nicene Creed with your fingers crossed behind you and live with that silly “deeds not creeds” boloney as well as the idea that you can’t walk and chew gum (in other words, live the moral life and feed the poor at the same time), and you want more of an encounter group that’ll sanction any sin you can dream up, then the Episcopal Church welcomes you!

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Hi I liked the service I went to but could you give me some good websites that explain the relogion a bit more. I know it is very close to Catholics but any websites would be wonderful thanks

Also, I forgot to mention, it would probably be wise to visit a denomination AFTER you have thoroughly studied it and analyzed its ecclesiology, theology, values, and teachings. It seems like putting the ecclesial cart before the horse to visit parishes just to see how they worship. Trust me, worship can seem very sincere, dignified, classy, but under the veneer the teachings say it all. And after the Episcopal Church decided in Anaheim to ordain cross-dressers and folks wtih sex changes, heck, even the sex of the rector in an Episcopal Church could be deceiving! Rector John might really be Rector Stacy now!

 

[MarkBrown]

besides what has been posted try these:

Stand Firm | Stand Firm

standfirminfaith.com

virtueonline.org
kendallharmon.net/t19/

The above are all news/commentary type blogs. The owners are
all in ministry in and out of the episcopal church.

anglicancontinum.blogspot.com
interesting group from the continuing churches that left the episcopal
church in the 70’s. They can be grumpy at times and are prone
to long, long postings.

The Anglican Church in North America

anglicanchurch.net

new grouping of anglicans formed in june this year from various
anglican groups that have left the episcopal church since 1873.
list anglican beliefs etc and parish locations.

While websights are good, I would suggest sitting down
and discussing the beliefs of the church of which you are
interested. Go into this association with you eyes wide
open, so you are not surprised in the future. Each of the
websites listed above, if not removed, will lead you to
additional websites. All discussing some aspect
of Anglicanism.

I would second gurney, do not confuse liturgical style
with theology. Not all Anglicans are close to catholics
in theology/morality/ethics.

Fr. Mark
REC-ACNA

 

[MarkBrown]

And after the Episcopal Church decided in Anaheim to ordain cross-dressers and folks wtih sex changes, heck, even the sex of the rector in an Episcopal Church could be deceiving! Rector John might really be Rector Stacy now!

ok, I could have done without this visual.

Fr. Mark
REC-ACNA

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

ok, I could have done without this visual.

Fr. Mark
REC-ACNA

Hey Father Mark,

As my students would say, I’m just “keepin’ it real!” LOL. I think sometimes these Episcopalians are so deep into lah-lah land that they get brainwashed into this “inclusion” silliness to the point that they lose sight of what they’re really endorsing? I mean, transgender? Does anyone take this seriously? Men trapped in women’s bodies wearing mitres and albs? Wow!? LOL If it weren’t so tragically bizarre it would be fodder for Jerry Springer! And to think parishoners in TEC could hear this stuff and STILL attend on Sunday? wowzers!

 

[SonofMonica]

Hi I liked the service I went to but could you give me some good websites that explain the relogion a bit more. I know it is very close to Catholics but any websites would be wonderful thanks

The theology of Episcopalians is only close to Catholics if you’re talking about Episcopalians of the Anglo-Catholic variety–a dying breed. The Episcopal Church is no place for a Catholic to consider. I had to give up so many things in living the Episcopal Church to become Catholic. The female priest at an Episcopal church I used to attend, told seekers that they did not have to believe anything in order to be an Episcopalian, and that “God is the trees” was an acceptable answer, because we are all merely on a “journey.” She was not a Christian before discerning a call to the priesthood. The Episcopal Church is absolutely riddled full with this sort of new age business. My advice is steer clear. Even a little poison mixed with water can kill you, and these folks are happily adding more venom every time they meet (e.g., Anaheim 2009).

 

[Contarini]

Also, I forgot to mention, it would probably be wise to visit a denomination AFTER you have thoroughly studied it and analyzed its ecclesiology, theology, values, and teachings. It seems like putting the ecclesial cart before the horse to visit parishes just to see how they worship.

Well, there is that whole Incarnation thing. And we do claim to be the Body of Christ.

Bodies matter. What we actually do matters. The Church is not just a sum of nice ideas.

I am still an Episcopalian and not a Catholic largely because for me to enter into communion with Rome would be to break communion with a real (though imperfect) manifestation of Christ’s Body in favor of an abstract ideal existing largely in my own head. For Rusty Reno it was the other way round.

Edwin

 

[MelanieAnne]

Hi I liked the service I went to but could you give me some good websites that explain the relogion a bit more. I know it is very close to Catholics but any websites would be wonderful thanks

Patty,

I was Episcopalian. Now Catholic. Why are you still searching? What makes you so restless? I’m concerned about you.

You’ve done the Mormon thing, you’ve done the Catholic thing, perhaps you’ve experimented elsewhere as well, I don’t know. I hope you don’t think God needs to be what appeals to you. That’s not how it works. Rather, it is all of us that need to bring ourselves more into conformance with God. When you are in a church that you picked because they believe what you want to believe, that doesn’t mean you’re in the right church, it just means you’ve found a bunch of people that agree with you. That’s no guarantee that those ideas are pleasing to God.

In the Catholic faith, you’re in a faith that goes back to Jesus Himself, founded by Jesus, guided by Jesus to this day. No other faith can truthfully say that. Why would you want to experiment? I’m curious.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Hi I liked the service I went to but could you give me some good websites that explain the relogion a bit more. I know it is very close to Catholics but any websites would be wonderful thanks

Is this the US kind - or are you asking about Anglicanism generally ?​

The Anglican Communion Official Website

• [http://www.anglicancommunion.org/provincialnews/index.cfm (http://www.anglicancommunion.org/provincialnews/index.cfm)

Anglicans Online | The online centre of the Anglican / Episcopal world

• [http://anglicansonline.org/ (http://anglicansonline.org/)

Parts of it are close to RCism - others are closer to Geneva rather than Rome. One can hardly expect a worldwide communion of about 80 million to be homogeneous. And that does not include bodies which have an Anglican ethos, but are not in communion with the Anglican Communion. (There are “continuing Anglicans”,just as there are “Continuing” Churches in other traditions.)

The Prayer Book Society

• [http://www.pbs.org.uk/ (http://www.pbs.org.uk/)

The Scottish Prayer Book Society

• [http://www.scottish-prayer-book.co.uk/ (http://www.scottish-prayer-book.co.uk/)

RCism is not alone in having had liturgical turmoil in the last forty years…

It is no more possible to “explain” easily to do so for Catholicism, or what is called Orthodoxy* - any attempt to do so, would result in a very shallow caricature. What religion can be “explained” in that way ?

*The non-Chalcedonian Churches of Assyria, Ethiopia, Armenia, Iraq, Iran, are called Orthodox too.

I hope those links are some use.

Here is a statement by the head of the Anglican equivalent (roughly) of the SSPX

• [http://www.forwardinfaith.com/artman/publish/article_165.shtml (http://www.forwardinfaith.com/artman/publish/article_165.shtml)

Even more remarkably, he used to be a RC - now he’s in communion with neither Rome nor Canterbury. Anglicanism includes him and those like him, just as it includes Bishop Gene Robinson or Bishop Elizabeth Jefferts Schori: they & their Anglican detractors - of whom there are many - are all part of the Anglican picture, along with the Anglican Franciscans & Benedictines; and Anglican Evangelicals & Fundamentalists on the other.

 

[1edyson]

I’m not sure Patty is still searching per se, I know she was looking to check out all kinds of denominations, but i’ll let the OP respond.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

I’m not sure Patty is still searching per se, I know she was looking to check out all kinds of denominations, but i’ll let the OP respond.

Maybe she’s found something solid to read LOL​

 

[PattyPryor]

For all you Roman Catholics freaking out- I am NOT leaving the Catholic Church. I just wanted to know a bit more about the Episcopalians. Jeez. I am getting a Theology degree and plan on working in the Catholic Church. You all drive me crazy on this website. Stop freaking out thinking I’m leaving. Just went to Mass today. I go everyday to Catholic Mass. Please don’t worry about me thinking I’m leaving. i’m tried of it. I don’t post here much because of it.

Thank everyone for the websites I’ll check them out

 

[AJTheMan]

Also, I forgot to mention, it would probably be wise to visit a denomination AFTER you have thoroughly studied it and analyzed its ecclesiology, theology, values, and teachings. It seems like putting the ecclesial cart before the horse to visit parishes just to see how they worship. Trust me, worship can seem very sincere, dignified, classy, but under the veneer the teachings say it all. And after the Episcopal Church decided in Anaheim to ordain cross-dressers and folks wtih sex changes, heck, even the sex of the rector in an Episcopal Church could be deceiving! Rector John might really be Rector Stacy now!

Seriously. This one time, no joke, I decided that I would attend a Catholic Mass. I had never studied the religion or anything. I loved the mass and thought it was beautiful, like a small piece of heaven. Then, when I got to studying it, I realized that Catholics want to place religion in government and ban gays from marriage and rid a woman’s right to choose abortion. Sounded like a theocracy.

Boy, was I wrong about that religion. At least the mass was nice, though.

 

[dsears]

Seriously. This one time, no joke, I decided that I would attend a Catholic Mass. I had never studied the religion or anything. I loved the mass and thought it was beautiful, like a small piece of heaven. Then, when I got to studying it, I realized that Catholics want to place religion in government and ban gays from marriage and rid a woman’s right to choose abortion. Sounded like a theocracy.

Boy, was I wrong about that religion. At least the mass was nice, though.

Sorry, but protecting life is not a theocracy. Protecting life is precisely what we are called to do in our faith. Life is something that has been cheapened by our culture,but we are working to renew the culture of life that we were not only founded on, but our faith was founded on 2000 years ago.

 

[AJTheMan]

Fair enough. You feel compelled to push that cause just as we on the side of choice wish to push the cause of liberty. Of Freedom.

(I’m not antagonizing your position, just merely commenting that we both have the right to push our respective causes. Your cause being life, my cause being freedom and liberty to choose)

 

[1edyson]

For all you Roman Catholics freaking out- I am NOT leaving the Catholic Church. I just wanted to know a bit more about the Episcopalians. Jeez. I am getting a Theology degree and plan on working in the Catholic Church. You all drive me crazy on this website. Stop freaking out thinking I’m leaving. Just went to Mass today. I go everyday to Catholic Mass. Please don’t worry about me thinking I’m leaving. i’m tried of it. I don’t post here much because of it.

Thank everyone for the websites I’ll check them out

Exactly why we let peole talk for themselves and not make assumptions. But to everyone’s defense, they do it, ideally with love and charity, quick to shoot, but with love and charity.

 

[HappyRevert]

Seriously. This one time, no joke, I decided that I would attend a Catholic Mass. I had never studied the religion or anything. I loved the mass and thought it was beautiful, like a small piece of heaven. Then, when I got to studying it, I realized that Catholics want to place religion in government and ban gays from marriage and rid a woman’s right to choose abortion. Sounded like a theocracy.

Boy, was I wrong about that religion. At least the mass was nice, though.

I understand that you disagree with the Catholic position on gays and abortion, but what does “Catholics want to place religion in government” mean? As far as I know the Catholic church doesn’t condone coups.

 

[AJTheMan]

I understand that you disagree with the Catholic position on gays and abortion, but what does “Catholics want to place religion in government” mean? As far as I know the Catholic church doesn’t condone coups.

Reference to Catholicism’s opposition to Roe vs. Wade and legalization of Gay Marriage.