To what extent are mortal sins forgivable?

[BlestOne]

Am I just stupid? I took that response to mean that the poster was nicely reminding all of us that there is one sin that cannot be forgiven, and that poster was correct. Most of the time we don’t even think of it because it is so far from our nature to even think of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. I didn’t take it as an assault on any one person, or the term fraternal correction as a bad thing…we are all brothers and sisters in Christ afterall…and that was a correction…

 

[BillP]

BlestOne:

Am I just stupid? I took that response to mean that the poster was nicely reminding all of us that there is one sin that cannot be forgiven, and that poster was correct. Most of the time we don’t even think of it because it is so far from our nature to even think of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. I didn’t take it as an assault on any one person, or the term fraternal correction as a bad thing…we are all brothers and sisters in Christ afterall…and that was a correction…

BlestOne,

I took issue with Fergal’s:

This sin is the sin of obstinately refusing to accept God’s mercy.

Oh look AntonLaVey5446 seems to be guilty of it!!

Not the idea that there was an unforgiveable sin.

 

[trumpet152]

Woh! Calm down. The comment was meant to be a joke. Whether it was appropriate or not is debatable, but let’s not go nuts over this.

 

[BillP]

trumpet152:

Woh! Calm down. The comment was meant to be a joke. Whether it was appropriate or not is debatable, but let’s not go nuts over this.

Then why didn’t he reply to my post that it was a joke instead of with this:?

If you didn’t notice we were referred to as ignorant fools. I have no problem if you accept that this is what you are but I for one will not be called an ignorant fool.

Anyone who scorns and refuses the Confessional is scorning and refusing God’s mercy. Is this not the sin spoken about?

 

[BlestOne]

BillP:

BlestOne,

I took issue with Fergal’s:

Not the idea that there was an unforgiveable sin.

Oh, I see now… Fergal, unless you are qualified to judge, I am afraid I do have to agree with BillP. We do not have the right to judge , only God does. That being said, it would be an awesome yet fearful thought if he, who can judge appeared on our Catholic Answers! Reminds me of that Mercy Me song…I can only Imagine

 

[Fergal]

Ok ok ok ok if i caused offense i apologise and I take it all back.

The comment was placed in jest however I do realise that what is one mans jest is anothers insult.

What I meant was that since we were all ignorant fools for believing in the power of the confessional the scorn of the confessional would make one guilty of scorning God’s mercy. Perhaps I am very wrong here. If I am please forgive me.

Let’s get the thread back on track.

 

[jrabs]

Sins can also remain unforgiven if the person does not have a contrite heart. I can go into the confessional and confess any sin I want, but if I do not have sincere contrition, then that sin is not forgiven.

 

[Della]

jrabs:

Sins can also remain unforgiven if the person does not have a contrite heart. I can go into the confessional and confess any sin I want, but if I do not have sincere contrition, then that sin is not forgiven.

Actually, all that is necessary is attrition for one’s sins. Perfect contrition is ideal, but even fear for the consequences to oneself is enough to receive absolution.

 

[hurst]

Della:

jrabs:

Sins can also remain unforgiven if the person does not have a contrite heart. I can go into the confessional and confess any sin I want, but if I do not have sincere contrition, then that sin is not forgiven.

Actually, all that is necessary is attrition for one’s sins. Perfect contrition is ideal, but even fear for the consequences to oneself is enough to receive absolution.

I think he was focusing on the “sincere” portion. Attrition is also called imperfect contrition, if I recall correctly. But yes, that is sufficient in the confessional to obtain forgiveness.

Something else that seems under-stressed: it is profitable to confess sins again in order to diminish the temporal punishment that may be left.

… confession diminishes the punishment in virtue of the very nature of the act of the one who confesses, for this act has the punishment of shame attached to it, so that the oftener one confesses the same sins, the more is the punishment diminished.

Summa Thologica
Whether confession delivers from punishment in some way?
catholicprimer.org/summa/XP/XP010.html#XPQ10A2THEP1

hurst

 

[my_agatha]

AntonLaVey5446:

No, actually I am 21. I have never been convinced that sin is objective. Not that I did, but you put up no argument and you have to sink to my level of what you assume to be the limited knowledge of a high school student.

When you name yourself after the Leader of the Church of Satan at a Catholic forum, you’re not here to debate you’re here to “provoke.”