Today I was cornered by some Mormons...

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I was walking home from university today when a Mormon walked towards me. It’s the 2nd time I’ve been cornered by them within the last 6 months, and my housemates have also been approached by them on different occasions so my street is a regular “hunting” ground for them as there is quite heavy pedestrian traffic.

Anywho, as soon as he said Hello I said Good afternoon, and then

Mormon - “Please can I have a moment?”

Me - “No sorry, I’m not interested.” (after I saw his badge)

Mormon - “I just want to talk to you for a minute about Jesus Christ” (or similar)

Me - “No sorry I’m not interested in talking to you, I’m a practicing Roman Catholic.”

Mormon - “Before you go, can I please ask you one question?”

Me - “Okay go on then.”

**Mormon - “As a Catholic, would it be important to you to be able to still be with your relatives even after death?” (or similar). **

What does that mean? As a British person, while I have seen LDS Churchs they’re not very common and not talked about nearly as much as in the USA. I replied “that would be nice but sorry, I don’t want to talk” and then I said goodbye, etc.
 
What is important is that we endure in Jesus Christ, that the relationships with our families be Christ-centered.

We as Catholics believe that in Christ all is restored.

We as Catholics await eternal life with God, His angels, and with the communion of the saints…all those who have endured in Christ.

So whether we are married or not, all our relationships will continue and grow in heaven…to the time when we will be given a new heaven and a new earth.
 
As a former Mormon, I can tell you that you got the “hook-line-sinker” line. 😉

Mormons believe that if they are married in their temples and you do all you can do to get to heaven that you will be with your family in a family setting after you die (very simply put) .

They use this line a lot when talking to someone who has recently lost a loved one. It’s a good conversion tool for them.

Steph
 
Right.we will know who is in heaven.Wonder why he thought Catholics didn;t believe we would see our relatives in Heaven.
 
tundramom said:
As a former Mormon, I can tell you that you got the “hook-line-sinker” line. 😉

Mormons believe that if they are married in their temples and you do all you can do to get to heaven that you will be with your family in a family setting after you die (very simply put) .

They use this line a lot when talking to someone who has recently lost a loved one. It’s a good conversion tool for them.

Steph
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But surely most Christians believe that we’ll be with our loved ones in Heaven anyway? What’s different about the Mormon teaching?
 
tundramom said:
As a former Mormon, I can tell you that you got the “hook-line-sinker” line. 😉

Mormons believe that if they are married in their temples and you do all you can do to get to heaven that you will be with your family in a family setting after you die (very simply put) .

They use this line a lot when talking to someone who has recently lost a loved one. It’s a good conversion tool for them.

Steph
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Since you are a former Mormon, do you have any insight on what they think about this verse?

When asked which of the widow’s 7 husbands would be with her in heaven Jesus replied:

You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God. “For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.” Matthew 22:29-30
 
LemonAndLime said:
But surely most Christians believe that we’ll be with our loved ones in Heaven anyway? What’s different about the Mormon teaching?
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In my understanding of Mormon theology, the difference is in family setting. A marriage remains a marriage, a child/parent relationship remains the same. Which, if you think about it logically becomes problematic when the child marries…
Also, Mormons believe that if you reach the highest level of heaven you become a god. They won’t tell you that outright… that will be couched in cleverly diverting terms, but that’s the root of it.
So a Christian idea of being with your loved ones doesn’t match up to the family structure most Mormons are striving for in their religion.

Steph
 
Kristin234 said:
Since you are a former Mormon, do you have any insight on what they think about this verse?

When asked which of the widow’s 7 husbands would be with her in heaven Jesus replied:

You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God. “For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.” Matthew 22:29-30
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That would be one of those places in the Bible where it isn’t “translated correctly”. They would also tell you that this is one of the main reasons that these marriage need to be done by proxy here on earth by “worthy” Mormon temple-workers. The ceremonies don’t take place in heaven… they are bound on earth and then accepted in heaven. Hence the temple work genaeology. 😉

Steph
 
LemonAndLime said:
**Mormon - “As a Catholic, would it be important to you to be able to still be with your relatives even after death?” (or similar). **

What does that mean?
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Who cares! 😃
LemonAndLime said:
As a British person, while I have seen LDS Churchs they’re not very common and not talked about nearly as much as in the USA. I replied “that would be nice but sorry, I don’t want to talk” and then I said goodbye, etc.
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I have talked to Mormons on a couple of occasions and to be honest, I got the impression that they don’t really understand what they believe. I spoke to two really nice young girls one time. I brought them in because I felt sorry for them, and because I felt they shouldn’t really be wandering around on a Saturday night in town they don’t know knocking on strangers’ doors. I also hoped they would give me a book of Mormon free of charge so I didn’t have to buy it as I was also taking a Foundation Course in theology at the time and writing about apocalyptic religions that emerged at the turn of the last century. I asked them a couple of questions about their beliefs and they didn’t really seem to be able to explain them and when I stated my beliefs, they didn’t understand what I meant.

So, my answer to this question would be, ‘do you believe you will still be with you’re relatives after death?’ ‘What do Mormons believe about death?’ (the immortal soul/salvation/ the Incarnation) Then, state what you believe. If you continue this way, the conversation tends to dry up.
 
tundramom said:
In my understanding of Mormon theology, the difference is in family setting. A marriage remains a marriage, a child/parent relationship remains the same. Which, if you think about it logically becomes problematic when the child marries…
Also, Mormons believe that if you reach the highest level of heaven you become a god. They won’t tell you that outright… that will be couched in cleverly diverting terms, but that’s the root of it.
So a Christian idea of being with your loved ones doesn’t match up to the family structure most Mormons are striving for in their religion.

Steph
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Oh I see, thanks for explaining. I had heard they believed you could become a God in your own world…

I wonder where the Scriptural evidence for that is? :rolleyes:

It would cause problems indeed, unless there were multiple dimensions. But then, what age would everyone be? I wonder what a Mormon would say to that.
 
I dated a girl once whose formerly Catholic grandmother was converted to Mormonism in a hospital right after her husband, who evidently had never been a very religious man, had died, and they came to her with the whole “he will be with you in heaven if you become a Latter Day Saint.”

On a lighter note, one time while I was working a register at Walmart two young, blond Mormon missionary kids wearing huge black trenchcoats and nametags with “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” or something like that written below their names came to my register to purchase a few things, one of them being a t-shirt that read I ❤️ beer. Never have I had a harder time trying to keep a straight face at work.
 
LemonAndLime said:
But surely most Christians believe that we’ll be with our loved ones in Heaven anyway? What’s different about the Mormon teaching?
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As I understand it, they believe that if you are married to a person in this life then you will remain married to them in heaven. Basically, that all relationships remain exactly the same.
 
My husband was raised Mormon. His Mom used to let the “Ward” (aka Parish) nearest to us know our address. They used to come by and ask for him. On several occasions, I spoke w/ them when he wasn’t home.

It was a nice talk … on the front porch w/ my statue of Our Blessed Mother next to us in the front yard. 😉
 
I am also hearing about the Irish Catholics not passing the faith on…and Mormons are very well read regarding the state of the universal church.

So it sounds like they are targeting Ireland…many times young girls are drawn in…monopolizing on the faith there. As an American Irish-Welsh Catholic, it saddens me to see the faith go down in Ireland and Italy. I am close to a number of Jewish people, and they consider these two other countries and their peoples their favorite.

In my church history book, the Irish monks did great work in preserving the sacred books. But early Irish monasticism was 'prone to imbalance, I would say towards being a little too penitential, and in those ancient times, ‘lack of strong authority, its excessive rigor as to mortification, its failure to specify a balanced schedule’. However, these monks founded monasteries abroad into Europe…France, Belgium, Switzerland, Italy, clearing forests, Christianizing peasants, sharing life with them.

St. Patrick restored my faith in my time of tribulation that caused me to go back to my roots…and what got it going? Riverdance…! I saw it at my sister’s…and I went into the bathroom and cried and cried…

So to the Irish who have suffered alot from clergy abuse–bring your people to St. Patrick, go to your roots, find your native spirit and be restored in the Lord.

I also am reading many testimonies that these young Mormon missionaries really are not clear themselves about points regarding their faith, and points of faith change.
 
Aelred_Minor said:
On a lighter note, one time while I was working a register at Walmart two young, blond Mormon missionary kids wearing huge black trenchcoats and nametags with “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” or something like that written below their names came to my register to purchase a few things, one of them being a t-shirt that read I ❤️ beer. Never have I had a harder time trying to keep a straight face at work.
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:rotfl:
 
LemonAndLime said:
I was walking home from university today when a Mormon walked towards me. It’s the 2nd time I’ve been cornered by them within the last 6 months, and my housemates have also been approached by them on different occasions so my street is a regular “hunting” ground for them as there is quite heavy pedestrian traffic.

Anywho, as soon as he said Hello I said Good afternoon, and then

Mormon - “Please can I have a moment?”

Me - “No sorry, I’m not interested.” (after I saw his badge)

Mormon - “I just want to talk to you for a minute about Jesus Christ” (or similar)

Me - “No sorry I’m not interested in talking to you, I’m a practicing Roman Catholic.”

Mormon - “Before you go, can I please ask you one question?”

Me - “Okay go on then.”

**Mormon - “As a Catholic, would it be important to you to be able to still be with your relatives even after death?” (or similar). **

What does that mean? As a British person, while I have seen LDS Churchs they’re not very common and not talked about nearly as much as in the USA. I replied “that would be nice but sorry, I don’t want to talk” and then I said goodbye, etc.
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Answer like this.
It isn’t what I want that is important.
Those who are, or will be, in heaven are my relatives.
Have you not read, "48…(Jesus) replied to the man (and said) “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother, and sister, and mother.” (Mt 12:48-50)
Earthly, temporal, natural relationships will not matter. In heaven all will be bound together as one in the Will of God.

Peace
James
 
I haven’t encountered any Mormans. Where I live. Too far away from the temple. 😃

There is one temple in the state of Maryland. Seriously, it likes like emerald city from the Wizard of Oz. Someone had even spray painted. “Surrender Dorothy” on the bridge before it. Marylanders got a kick out of that. It was there for years, before the bridge got repainted.
 
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