Today's (1-13) Mass Readings (No OSAS / The need for Purgatory)

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Tuesday (1-13)

Hebrews 2:5-12:

It was not to angels that God subjected the world to come, of which we are speaking. Instead, someone has testified somewhere: What is man that you are mindful of him, or the son of man that you care for him? You made him for a little while lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor, subjecting all things under his feet. In “subjecting” all things to him, he left nothing not “subject to him.” Yet at present we do not see “all things subject to him,” but we do see Jesus “crowned with glory and honor” because he suffered death, he who “for a little while” was made “lower than the angels,” that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. For it was fitting that he, for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many children to glory, should make the leader to their salvation perfect through suffering. He who consecrates and those who are being consecrated all have one origin. Therefore, he is not ashamed to call them “brothers” saying: I will proclaim your name to my brethren, in the midst of the assembly I will praise you.

St. Mark 1:21-28:***

Jesus came to Capernaum with his followers, and on the Sabbath he entered the synagogue and taught. The people were astonished at his teaching, for he taught them as one having authority and not as the scribes. In the synagogue was a man with an unclean spirit; he cried out, “What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are - the Holy One of God!” Jesus rebuked him and said, “Quiet! come out of him!” The unclean spirit convulsed him and with a loud cry came out of him. All were amazed and asked one another, “what is this? A new teaching with authority. He commands even the unclean spirits and they obey him.” His fame spread everywhere throughout the whole region of Galilee.

*Another anti-OSAS scripture: “those who are being consecrated” (it not a one-time thing). This passage also would tend to imply the need for the existence of Purgatory, since if one is not fully consecrated by the time of his death… well, God is merciful… *
 
Tuesday (1-13)

Hebrews 2:5-12:

It was not to angels that God subjected the world to come, of which we are speaking. Instead, someone has testified somewhere: What is man that you are mindful of him, or the son of man that you care for him? You made him for a little while lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor, subjecting all things under his feet. In “subjecting” all things to him, he left nothing not “subject to him.” Yet at present we do not see “all things subject to him,” but we do see Jesus “crowned with glory and honor” because he suffered death, he who “for a little while” was made “lower than the angels,” that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. For it was fitting that he, for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many children to glory, should make the leader to their salvation perfect through suffering. He who consecrates and those who are being consecrated all have one origin. Therefore, he is not ashamed to call them “brothers” saying: I will proclaim your name to my brethren, in the midst of the assembly I will praise you.

St. Mark 1:21-28:***

Jesus came to Capernaum with his followers, and on the Sabbath he entered the synagogue and taught. The people were astonished at his teaching, for he taught them as one having authority and not as the scribes. In the synagogue was a man with an unclean spirit; he cried out, “What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are - the Holy One of God!” Jesus rebuked him and said, “Quiet! come out of him!” The unclean spirit convulsed him and with a loud cry came out of him. All were amazed and asked one another, “what is this? A new teaching with authority. He commands even the unclean spirits and they obey him.” His fame spread everywhere throughout the whole region of Galilee.

What strikes me in today readings is the awesomeness of God. The uniqueness of Christian theology is that it prescribes God made man in his own image. The purpose of this creation is that God eventually wants to share his life with his creations. The amazing fact is that he wants to give to man what he gives to his only Son.

Who are we (what is a man?) but merely his creations and yet that was God’s plan. In God himself through his Son we have a leader. This is truly amazing. Today people have many different leaders who they follow and admire. I am glad for example that my leaders are not the Hamas or anyone else but Jesus whom I will follow. And in him I have a brother and become God’s child. Ours is truly an awesome God.

Christians today should be assured of our inheritance through Jesus. We can be like Jesus, as God wants to give us what he gives to Jesus. In the Gospel Jesus teaches with authority that even the demon obeys him. God has given us his word and like Jesus we can have the authority in actualizing it in our lives. It changes our lives.

I am very much encouraged by today readings and I pray that I continue to believe and have the faith that God truly loves me and that His plan for me is no less than what he has given his only Son. I pray that I may have the perseverance and courage to follow my leader Jesus and do what he wills me to do.

Amen.
 
I am very much encouraged by today readings and I pray that I continue to believe and have the faith that God truly loves me and that His plan for me is no less than what he has given his only Son…
yeah… sometimes its hard to “believe” when we see (and FEEL) how true it is that “at present we do not see all things subject to Him”…

:crying: :ouch: :hypno:
 
Tuesday (1-13)

Hebrews 2:5-12:

It was not to angels that God subjected the world to come, of which we are speaking. Instead, someone has testified somewhere: What is man that you are mindful of him, or the son of man that you care for him? You made him for a little while lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor, subjecting all things under his feet. In “subjecting” all things to him, he left nothing not “subject to him.” Yet at present we do not see “all things subject to him,” but we do see Jesus “crowned with glory and honor” because he suffered death, he who “for a little while” was made “lower than the angels,” that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. For it was fitting that he, for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many children to glory, should make the leader to their salvation perfect through suffering. He who consecrates and those who are being consecrated all have one origin. Therefore, he is not ashamed to call them “brothers” saying: I will proclaim your name to my brethren, in the midst of the assembly I will praise you.

St. Mark 1:21-28:***

Jesus came to Capernaum with his followers, and on the Sabbath he entered the synagogue and taught. The people were astonished at his teaching, for he taught them as one having authority and not as the scribes. In the synagogue was a man with an unclean spirit; he cried out, “What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are - the Holy One of God!” Jesus rebuked him and said, “Quiet! come out of him!” The unclean spirit convulsed him and with a loud cry came out of him. All were amazed and asked one another, “what is this? A new teaching with authority. He commands even the unclean spirits and they obey him.” His fame spread everywhere throughout the whole region of Galilee.

*Another anti-OSAS scripture: “those who are being consecrated” (it not a one-time thing). This passage also would tend to imply the need for the existence of Purgatory, since if one is not fully consecrated by the time of his death… well, God is merciful… *
How are you so certain that it is Purgatory where they are being made holy? Could it not be here in this life or possibly in a realm beyond this life in a progression toward Heaven? I have a real problem with a place to cleanse one from the effect of sin that has already been removed by the sacrifice of Christ especially when the whole premise for it does not square with Scripture.
 
How are you so certain that it is Purgatory where they are being made holy? Could it not be here in this life or possibly in a realm beyond this life in a progression toward Heaven? I have a real problem with a place to cleanse one from the effect of sin that has already been removed by the sacrifice of Christ especially when the whole premise for it does not square with Scripture.
you don’t know scripture very well…
 
Why is this in Non-catholic Religions, and not in apologetics?
 
So explain it.

I’m curious.
Purgatory is in the Bible… the concept… 1 Cor. 3:13, St. Mt 18:23… Revelation 21:27 says that no unclean thing will enter Heaven. Some versions say no “impure” thing… How many of us is perfectly pure when we die??

If you read the Mass readings for the past several weeks, as posted by me @ this forum… you will find many scirptures that support the idea of being cleansed… St. Mt 12:32 mentions forgiveness in “the next age”…

And logic would dictate that if we need to be cleansed (as Scripture says) and we are not so perfectly cleansed at the time of death… that God would, in his great mercy, give us more time, rather than casting us into etenral Hell…

“Work out your salvation with fear & trembling (Phil 2:12)”… but waht if you are not done doing such work when you die???
 
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