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Today’s gospel was the parable of the talents. In the homily afterward, my priest explained that the master in the parable was not God, but rather a greedy person. The third servant, in good conscience, refused to make his master richer by taking from the poor to expand his fortune. For this display of conscience, he was fired by his master. In leading up to this interpretation, Father noted that the Occupy Wall Street movements are protesting expansion of wealth at the expense of the poor.

I don’t want to discuss the OWS movement, just my priest’s take on the parable. Is this the best or even a valid take on this parable?

Sean
 
Today’s gospel was the parable of the talents. In the homily afterward, my priest explained that the master in the parable was not God, but rather a greedy person. The third servant, in good conscience, refused to make his master richer by taking from the poor to expand his fortune. For this display of conscience, he was fired by his master. In leading up to this interpretation, Father noted that the Occupy Wall Street movements are protesting expansion of wealth at the expense of the poor.

I don’t want to discuss the OWS movement, just my priest’s take on the parable. Is this the best or even a valid take on this parable?

Sean
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I didn’t understand this parable either
 
The priest at the Mass I attended today had a quite different take in his homily. He compared the talents given to the servants as the grace given by God at baptism, and that the servant who buried the one talent given him by the Master out of fear (rather than wisely investing it) could be compared to the large numbers of baptised Catholics on the church’s rolls who do not go forward for confirmation, Catholic marriage etc. for various reasons - taking the grace God gave them at baptism and doing not very much with it.
 
The priest at the Mass I attended today had a quite different take in his homily. He compared the talents given to the servants as the grace given by God at baptism, and that the servant who buried the one talent given him by the Master out of fear (rather than wisely investing it) could be compared to the large numbers of baptised Catholics on the church’s rolls who do not go forward for confirmation, Catholic marriage etc. for various reasons - taking the grace God gave them at baptism and doing not very much with it.
Our priest’s homily took a similar view…and the reading in today’s “Magnificat” echoes this as well. In “God’s economy” people who use their spiritual “wealth” (the graces given to us by God) will be given more “wealth”–more graces. Those who take the gift of grace given them by God and bury it–even what they have will be taken away…

Never heard this interpretation before, and I found it quite interesting…
 
The priest at my Mass said the master in the parable represented God and the servants were people just like us. The talents, though currency back in the day, are representations of skills or gifts that God has given us at creation. It’s not a matter of how many we have, but the fact that everyone has at least one. You can have no skill at all things except one. God bestowed upon us special gifts and we should use them for good. An exceptional orator should use his/her ability to sway audiences to worthwhile causes and away from sin. After all, what good is a seed if it’s not nurtured?
 
Your pastor obviously wanted to make a point regarding the OWS movement (I’m not familiar with this), but perhaps the parable of the talents was not the right place for it. Sometimes strong subjects elicit strong feelings, which is all I’m going to say on the matter.

As far as I understand it, God IS the master in the parable of the talents and we are all servants or stewards of the gifts he has blessed us with. At the point of death, each of us will know (without question), whether we have been faithful or lax stewards of the gifts we have been given. This parable serves as a good reminder that God expects much in return for what He has handed out. There is a phrase in the bible that says we should “work out our salvation in fear and trembling”. All Christians would be well served to keep this in mind.

God Rocks
 
Our priest’s homily took a similar view…and the reading in today’s “Magnificat” echoes this as well. In “God’s economy” people who use their spiritual “wealth” (the graces given to us by God) will be given more “wealth”–more graces. Those who take the gift of grace given them by God and bury it–even what they have will be taken away…

Never heard this interpretation before, and I found it quite interesting…
Yeah that explains what he said better than my attempt from memory actually.
 
Our priest’s homily took a similar view…and the reading in today’s “Magnificat” echoes this as well. In “God’s economy” people who use their spiritual “wealth” (the graces given to us by God) will be given more “wealth”–more graces. Those who take the gift of grace given them by God and bury it–even what they have will be taken away…
+*Beautiful insight . . . thanks for sharing . . . God bless . . . *

. . . all for Jesus+
. . . thank You Dear Lord+
 
The priest at the Mass I attended today had a quite different take in his homily. He compared the talents given to the servants as the grace given by God at baptism, and that the servant who buried the one talent given him by the Master out of fear (rather than wisely investing it) could be compared to the large numbers of baptised Catholics on the church’s rolls who do not go forward for confirmation, Catholic marriage etc. for various reasons - taking the grace God gave them at baptism and doing not very much with it.
That is my understanding as well. I was puzzled by the OP’s priest’s homily. He certainly had a different take on it.
 
The third servant, in good conscience, refused to make his master richer by taking from the poor to expand his fortune.
Your priest may be a good minister, but he is a poor economist. He believes in a “zero sum” economy (which no respected economist accepts), where available wealth is fixed. Thus, the only way I can gain a dollar is to take a dollar away from someone else. The priest assumes the other two servants gained their profits by exploiting the poor (yet, there is no reason why they could not have earned this money by exploiting the rich).

Father’s homily is flawed both economically and theologically. Let’s pray he does better next week.
 
Doing good business creates more wealth for people to share. If Bob the servant used his talents of money to buy olives from Farmer Shlomo, Farmer Shlomo makes money and doesn’t have to worry about thieves on the way to market or bruising the olives on the way. Then if Bob takes his quality Shlomo Farm olives to market, taking on risk, instead of letting them rot on the trees or make a lesser price around town with the fewer people able to buy and eat them, the people in the market have an opportunity to buy, use, or eat a wider variety of olives than they otherwise would have done.

Then, when Bob the servant brings back his twenty talents of olive profits to his master, his master now has twice as much money to use on improving his property (or Bob’s life) in order to produce more wheat and other goods, to expand the olive business and enrich local farmers, and to spend on food and clothing for the poor.

Later in life, when the master mellows out, this will also finance the welcome home party for his prodigal son.

Btw, the first reading about the Wife who was more precious than rubies? It was all about how she uses her hard work and sales of clothing to foreign traders to invest money, buy land, and feed the poor. In this case, it related to the second reading by making the Wife a symbol of the Church, which is always working to feed and clothe her household and better our lives. The Church as a home businesswoman/housewife, in fact.
 
Today’s gospel was the parable of the talents. In the homily afterward, my priest explained that the master in the parable was not God, but rather a greedy person. The third servant, in good conscience, refused to make his master richer by taking from the poor to expand his fortune. For this display of conscience, he was fired by his master. In leading up to this interpretation, Father noted that the Occupy Wall Street movements are protesting expansion of wealth at the expense of the poor.

I don’t want to discuss the OWS movement, just my priest’s take on the parable. Is this the best or even a valid take on this parable?

Sean
It hardly agrees with the standard interpretation that Church leaders have given this parable, so certainly it is not the “best”.
Personally, I wouldn’t consider it a valid “take”,.since that whole section in Matthew (Mt. 24:29 thru 25:46) has the theme of the coming of Our Lord/God to judge us. (The “master” in this parable therefore representing Our Lord.)

haydock1859.tripod.com/id43.html
catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea-Matthew25.php (Aquinas’ collection of commentary by Church fathers.)

The interpretation your priest gave is one I have never heard before in any sermon on that gospel passage (and I’m a cradle Catholic who’s been around a LONG time). Neither have I come across that interpretation in any of the Scripture commentaries I’ve read on that passage.
 
Sounds like my pastor today. I was very uncomfortable with his preaching such error. I will have to email him about it. He said the interpretation came from a monk he read recently. He didn’t mention OWS, but did say greed was behind our current economic troubles.

Usually he is not this bad.
 
Our (visiting) priest did say that in today’s financial climate, and with today’s interest rates and the fees that banks charge, maybe burying it wouldn’t be such a bad idea after all… 😉
 
…my priest explained that the master in the parable was not God, but rather a greedy person.
Strictly from a scriptural viewpoint, I think that I can say that your priest’s interpretation of this parable is a bit off the mark (to say the least). Jesus begins this parable by saying:

“For it will be as when a man going on a journey called his servants and entrusted to them his property;” (Mat 25:14, emphasis added)

What does the word “it” refer to? If we back up in this gospel, we see that Jesus had just taught the Parable of the Wise and Foolish Maidens, which was about being (among other things) vigilant because the Second Coming of Christ may happen at any time. He ends the Parable of the Wise and Foolish Maidens by saying,

“Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.” (Mat 25:13)

It is immediately after this that he says…

“For it will be as when a man going on a journey called his servants and entrusted to them his property; to one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. Then he went away.” (Mat 25:14-15)

So “it” refers to the Second Coming of Christ. Therefore, the *Parable of the Talents *is a further elaboration on the teaching of the Wise and Foolish Maidens. In light of this, in the Parable of the Talents, who is the master who is going away on a long journey but one day eventually returns? Jesus. In the Parable of the Wise and Foolish Maidens, Jesus is the bridegroom suddenly arriving to lead the marriage procession, and in the Parable of the Talents he is the Master who returns from a long journey.

Also keep in mind that, according to the Parable of the Talents, upon his return the master judges his servants, and the one with one talent is judged to be “wicked” and “lazy” (i.e., the capital sin of sloth) and is “thrown into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and grinding of teeth,” which is clearly hell imagery. For your priest to simply say that the parable culminated with the servant being “fired” does not really do the imagery of the parable justice. Note that the Parable of the Wise and Foolish Maidens likewise ends with a judgement (the foolish maidens are not allowed into the marriage banquet). God is the one (as opposed to an earthly greedy master) who will return one day to judge whether or not we are allowed into the heavenly marriage banquet or condemned to the outer darkness of hell.

So the master in the Parable of the Talents is God, not a greedy person. And the servant with one talent was wicked and lazy, not a person compassionate to the poor. The parable does not say that more money was gained by the other servants because they exploited the poor, and the parable says that servant with one talent could have avoided his fate had he simply put the coin in the bank to draw interest (an action that does not directly represent the exploitation of the poor). In other words, the master would have been compassionate on this servant had he demonstrated at least some kind of effort, even if minimal. But the servant allowed his sloth to prevent him from being fruitful to any degree.

Had the parable told the story of a servant who gave away the talent in order to help the poor, without any consideration of repayment or other compensation, was willing to endure the persecution of a greedy master as a result, but was rewarded by our Heavenly Father for his compassion and virtue, then this would have served the homily in question better. But that is not what the Parable of the Talents says, nor is it what this parable teaches. The teaching is our talents (in terms of abilities, skills and blessings) are gifts from God, but God expects them to be used to bear fruit (i.e., virtuous deeds, helping to promote the kingdom of God in this world, etc.). Those who squander their God-given talents will be held accountable by Christ at their judgement.

I can appreciate the fact that your priest is concerned about the economy, and I agree that there is a lot of reprehensible things done in our society for the sake of profits over the well-being of people. Such actions are contrary to the teachings of the Old Testament prophets, the teachings of the gospels, and the teachings of the Catholic Church. Naturally, the perpetrators of such social and economical injustice will be held accountable by Christ, and all this certainly deserves to be preached in a homily. But, in my opinion, I think that the priest in question should have waited to use his homily in accordance with a Mass reading that better represented these issues rather than use the Parable of the Talents which is not really about the economy nor about being charitable to the poor.

As a side note, in my above statement I am not expressing support for the Occupy Wall Street Movement, but simply making a general statement about problems in our society as a whole. I’m not really able to comment, one way or another, on the agenda and proposals of OWS until its participants manage to clearly articulate what their agenda and proposals are (assuming that vandalism, violence, intimidation, obstruction of business, monopoly of the use of public property, and anti-law enforcement activities are not the actual agenda).
 
I skipped that previous 5 posts to give you guys this information I obtained about 2 weeks ago. I did some research on what is a “talent” and determined from my research that during the time of Christ a talent is a unit of measure for “money” or a commodity. A talent of Gold is 130 pounds. I calculated todays value of gold to get an idea of what it was worth back then in today’s standards so that we can better understand. I’ll post what I discovered and sent to my pastor below:
Talent – unit of measure

SO, I was wrong [originally said a talent was worth about $2 million]. A talent is worth much more than I originally recalled. It’s worth almost $4 million. This brings a new dimension to the meaning of the parable. Solomon’s Temple required an enormous amount of silver and gold to complete. David provided Solomon 100,000 talents* of gold and 1,000,000 *talents of silver to construct the Temple. I’d say that qualifies as “enormous”. Just the gold alone equals $372,694,400,000 in gold per my calculations. Guessing the weight of silver correctly and today’s market value, there was $71,988,800,000 of silver.

“The heavy common talent, used in New Testament times, was 58.9 kilograms (130 lb).”

60 Mina = 1 Talent
60 Shekels = 1 Mina

I learned that 1 oz. of gold is valued at $1,791.80/oz. currently.

There are 16 oz = 1 lb.
130 lbs x 16 oz./lbs = 2080 oz.
1 Talent (gold) = 2080 oz. x $1,791.81/oz. = $3,726,944

1 Talent (silver) = 2080 oz. x $34.61/oz. = $71,988.80

Sources::

usagold.com/dailyquotes.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talent_%28measurement%29

Yes. I know. Wikipedia is not a legitimate source, but I’ve found it to be quite accurate on several different topics…particularly when it comes to information like this, particularly when a valid source is cited~ “III. Measures of Weight:”, JewishEncyclopedia.com at the bottom. Trick I learned in grad school.
Try fathoming this. If someone gave you this much money, wouldn’t it make you nervous? I think so. The problem is that we need to think in terms of bishops and priests here… leaders of the Church. We know that the Church cost money to run. The value of the gold represents the treasures given by God to bishops, not just the laity. In order to make it grow [make the Church grow] we [the bishops] must take risks. Salvation history is a risky business. The bishops, [leaders of the Church today and then, represented by the Pharisees then] had the choice of growing God’s people or denying them [represented by burying the treasure]. I’ll stop there for now. But I think I’m onto something here. It also could have the modern day twist we often see with the telents being gifts, but I believe it’s more accurately represented by what I’m illuding to so unpolished. I’ll pass this on to my pastor and another friend {priest} from my seminary days… we call each other “brother.”
 
My view on the Gospel and the parable was that God gives us each talents, some get more than others. We are asked to develop them in some way based on our abilities and situations in life.

I think of the 3 T’s: Time, Talent, Treasure. Time: giving of our spare time in doing good (Example: a cook going for an hour to a soup kitchen once a week to make food). Talent: doing something good for others that involves something we are good at doing (example: a person who plays music for a living playing the organ at Mass for no charge). Treasure: financially and giving of material possessions depending on our individual economic situation in life (giving what we can in the collection, giving a few cans of food to the food drive/pantry) etc.
 
Wait I think I got it!
The third servant was lazy and instead of doing that could of helped his master and him he decides to selfishly hide the coin.
The third servant refused to do on what his Master has given him.

Well at least I think that’s it. 😛

Take Care and
God Bless
 
Wait I think I got it!
The third servant was lazy and instead of doing that could of helped his master and him he decides to selfishly hide the coin.
The third servant refused to do on what his Master has given him.

Well at least I think that’s it. 😛

Take Care and
God Bless
Look at what I posted. A talent of gold or silver is not a coin. It’s a huge amount of bullion… a weight of measurement. A tallent is 130 pounds… that 2080 oz. of gold or silver. There are other substances that could be used as well, but these are common back then. The servant that received one talent received in today’s market, approximately $4 million dollars. So I believe Jesus is talking about the leaders of the Church and possibly the Jewish leaders of the time. They would have known what he was saying and realized it was a slap in the face. Remember, the Pharisees were insanely jealous of Jesus’ following, which produced much fruit, thus multiple talents.

In today’s application of the Tallents, Jesus is speaking to all of us… Evangelize. But this is particular directed towards the leaders of the Church. But for those of us that are little guys, we have the same burden to evangelize or to use our wealth, tallents, riches, whatever you want to call it, to evangelize… prosper [save souls] for the Church.
 
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