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Wednesday (12-31)

1 John 2;18-21:

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that the antichrist was coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. Thus we know this is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of our number; if they had been, they would have remained with us. Their desertion shows that none of them was of our number. But you have the anointing that comes from the Holy One, and you all have knowledge. I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth.

St. John 1:1-18:***

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; the light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it. A man named John was sent from God. He came for testimony, to testify to the light, so that all might believe through him. He was not the light, but came to testify to the light. The true light, which enlightens everyone was coming in to the world. He was in the world, and the world came to be through him, but the world did not know him. He came to what was his own, but his own people did not accept him. But to those who did accept him he gave power to become children of God, to those who believe in his name, who were born not by natural generation nor by human choice, by a man’s decision but of God. And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us and we saw his glory, the glory of the Father’s only-begotten son, full of grace and truth. John testified to him and cried out, saying, “this was he of whom I said, ‘The one who is coming after me ranks ahead of me because he existed before me.’” From his fullness we have all received, grace in place of grace, because while the law was given through Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God. The only-begotten Son, God, who is at the Father’s side, has revealed him.

Comments??

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Comments??

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I would love to comment and reflect on the word but they will be personal and on the basis of Lectio Divina. I guess it’s not appropriate here for me to do that as spiritual reflection can be dragged into the quagmire of secular issue and interpretation.

God bless. 🙂
 
I would love to comment and reflect on the word but they will be personal and on the basis of Lectio Divina. I guess it’s not appropriate here for me to do that as spiritual reflection can be dragged into the quagmire of secular issue and interpretation.

God bless. 🙂
what is lectio divina?

secular issue??? i don’t understand

I myself am not a secular person … don’t watch TV, even for news (they only tell you what thye want to tell you…)… so i guess i don’t fully understand this… :confused:
 
my comments on the underlined passages:

about the anti-Christ… i feel that certain people in “politics” in the US these days are anti-Christs because they don’t belong to any traditional (non-heretical) “church” and they believe it is OK to murder the unborn. Even when given scirptural references against such practices, they still continue on… promoting death and destruction… and leading weak-minded people onto the same Hell-bent pathway…

“In the beginning was the Word…”

This passage is one of the many that proves Jesus is God… (since so many seem to doubt that). Jesus said that whatever we do to the least of His brethren we do to Him (God)…

To kill the unborn is to kill God:eek:
 
This passage is one of the many that proves Jesus is God… (since so many seem to doubt that). Jesus said that whatever we do to the least of His brethren we do to Him (God)…

To kill the unborn is to kill God:eek:
Well just this one …

How can you prove that Jesus is God? Not by the Bible or anything. Nobody can prove God. This is one example of secular discussion on the word.

Either you believe in the Bible or you don’t. For the believers the Bible speaks to them with a message but for the unbelievers it is just another book. Thus you cannot use Biblical verses to prove God because the unbelievers simply would not believe them.

I am surprised you do not know what Lectio Divina is because the late JP2 put so much emphasis on this. You can look it up for the details. Briefly it is to read, listen, understand, act and to pray the Bible. I am not good at explaining thing but I thought that would give you some idea.

Some of the basic practical steps of Lectio Divina:
What does the verse says?
What does the verse says today?
What does it says to you?
How are you going to appropriate it in your life?
Then pray that you may live it.


You are putting threads on the daily read for discussion here. I think that’s good but what is it that you want to achieve by them?

God bless you.
 
How can you prove that Jesus is God? Not by the Bible or anything.
maybe i can’t… to anyone but myself… & maybe those who already believe in Jesus and will accept scirptural proof (evidence)…
for the unbelievers it is just another book. Thus you cannot use Biblical verses to prove God because the unbelievers simply would not believe them.
most people on the forums are believers or wanna-bes… i wasn’t trying to prove Jesus is God to anyone who does not accept the bible… However, i don’t have just the bible to prove (define Prove)… such a thing… I’ve spent time with Jesus @ the Blessed Sacrament… I KNOW from (admittedly subjective) experience that He is God. Of course, my experience is ony subjectively real from the outside looking in. When i am in his Presence, i am in it objectively speaking… but whether i can prove that is another thing… I’m not going to :banghead: trying to prove it…
you are putting threads on the daily read for discussion here. I think that’s good but what is it that you want to achieve by them?
God bless you.
what do you tend to THINK I am trying to achieve??? Why do you ask?

Who wants to know?? 😃
 
maybe i can’t… to anyone but myself… & maybe those who already believe in Jesus and will accept scirptural proof (evidence)… most people on the forums are believers or wanna-bes… i wasn’t trying to prove Jesus is God to anyone who does not accept the bible… However, i don’t have just the bible to prove (define Prove)… such a thing… I’ve spent time with Jesus @ the Blessed Sacrament… I KNOW from (admittedly subjective) experience that He is God. Of course, my experience is ony subjectively real from the outside looking in. When i am in his Presence, i am in it objectively speaking… but whether i can prove that is another thing… I’m not going to :banghead: trying to prove it…

what do you tend to THINK I am trying to achieve??? Why do you ask?

Who wants to know?? 😃
I thought this type of thread should be more suitable in the Sacred Scripture or the Liturgy section. But you may want to have a genaral discussion of the word and that’s prefectly OK. It’s the objective that you have in mind, that’s what I mean about the thing you want to achieve. You want a Lectio Divina type of discussion or a theological type or where you allow anyone to comment on the word? I guess it must be the latter two because this is a non-Catholic forum. As I mentioned earlier I could only contribute on the Lectio Divina type because I am not up to it to comment on the word theologically. And of course trying to prove God with the Bible just won’t work for those who don’t believe. Well, just my two cents. 🙂
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This passage is one of the many that proves Jesus is God… (since so many seem to doubt that). Jesus said that whatever we do to the least of His brethren we do to Him (God)…
Good luck and may God bless.
 
I thought this type of thread should be more suitable in the Sacred Scripture or the Liturgy section. But you may want to have a genaral discussion of the word and that’s prefectly OK. .
i post the scripture Mass readings and find it interesting to discuss things that leap out at me…

that’s all… The word of God is interesting… and it hits a chord within, which to me, is pretty much all the proof i need that it really is the word of God… I found the world a very unjust, unloving place (still do) but when i read the word of God, i see that, though people are untrustworthy (etc, etc)… God is perfectly just and also merciful and understanding…

Maybe i wouldn’t appreciate the word of God as much if i had had a “perfect” life - one that didn’t involve being a victim, etc…

🙂
 
i post the scripture Mass readings and find it interesting to discuss things that leap out at me…

that’s all… The word of God is interesting… and it hits a chord within, which to me, is pretty much all the proof i need that it really is the word of God… I found the world a very unjust, unloving place (still do) but when i read the word of God, i see that, though people are untrustworthy (etc, etc)… God is perfectly just and also merciful and understanding…

Maybe i wouldn’t appreciate the word of God as much if i had had a “perfect” life - one that didn’t involve being a victim, etc…

🙂
I am edified to see that the Bible meant so much to you. Do I detect some experience in your life that might not have been pleasing? I am sorry then.

Yes, the Bible if the word of God and as God is our Rock, our Refuge and our Hiding Place, the Bible should give us consolation and comfort from the reality of a harsh world. Besides the Bible is the truth which cuts like a knife at the lies of the world.

The word is too precious to me sometimes it seems so unjustified to be ridiculed and misrepresented by unbelievers. But yes, I could contribute to your thread if it’s any help.

Do take care and God bless.
 
I am edified to see that the Bible meant so much to you. Do I detect some experience in your life that might not have been pleasing?
I’ve been in hell… and still am… when i am in the process of being purified… I spent over 2 1/2 hrs @ the Blessed Sacrament today & it was grueling… don’t even know WHY cause no mortal sins on my soul… maybe 20 venials add up to a mortal… 😃 seriously, though, i feel that all souls alive in God’s world are There at the Blessed Sacrament… I just found out recently that the souls in Purg are There around the Tabernacle… Didn’t surprise me one bit… since i have always felt a lot of … hmmm… don’t know how to put it… very mysterious… but sometimes makes me want to fly home… 🙂 However, if i don’t resist that urge I get a great blessing… Have you ever been There???

What is your spiritual history??
 
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