Today's (Thursday's) Novendiales Mass on EWTN

[Sanctus]

rcn:

Rather than to be looking for something to be offended at, you could have offered the helpful explanation that Sanctus did.

Thank you Sanctus, this will help a lot. I’m sure most Catholics are completely unaware of these “eastern” churches, or exactly what the deal is with the “Orthodox”, etc. Now, this “New Advent” stuff is from 1913, right? Is it still current?

Yeah it’s “current.” Here’s a review of New Advent by the Catholic Culture website:

New Advent Site Review

 

[Sanctus]

rcn:

I’m sure most Catholics are completely unaware of these “eastern” churches, or exactly what the deal is with the “Orthodox”, etc.QUOTE]

This is one of the many reasons why the name “Roman Catholic” is very misleading–yes the majority of Catholics are Latin Rite; however not all–that name gives the impression that all Catholics are Latin Rite or that Eastern Catholics are somehow “less Catholic” yes, we are all in communion with the Bishop of Rome–but we’re just Catholic.

 

[Sanctus]

rcn:

I’m sure most Catholics are completely unaware of these “eastern” churches, or exactly what the deal is with the “Orthodox”, etc

This is one of the many reasons why the name “Roman Catholic” is very misleading–yes the majority of Catholics are Latin Rite; however not all–that name gives the impression that all Catholics are Latin Rite or that Eastern Catholics are somehow “less Catholic” yes, we are all in communion with the Bishop of Rome–but we’re just Catholic.

 

[Annunciata]

rcn:

Rather than to be looking for something to be offended at, you could have offered the helpful explanation that Sanctus did.

Thank you Sanctus, this will help a lot. I’m sure most Catholics are completely unaware of these “eastern” churches, or exactly what the deal is with the “Orthodox”, etc. Now, this “New Advent” stuff is from 1913, right? Is it still current?

Ah…but Sanctus did it so much better than I. I’m sorry.

 

[rcn]

Sanctus:

Here’s a review of New Advent by the Catholic Culture website

I wasn’t suggesting problems with the site itself, only that the “Encyclopedia” on it is from 1913. So there’s over 90 years of recent history that just isn’t there. Although I see that their list of popes includes everyone to the present, however Pius X is the last one that has a biography.

 

[FrRobSST]

You can learn more about recent Maronite History, especially in the Eastern United States, at this site:

stmaron.org/

There are wonderful photographs of the Consecration of the Maronite Bishop for the Eparchy of St. Maron (Eparchy is an Eastern term for Diocese, as Eparch is an eastern term for Diocesean Bishop).

The Maronites began with St. Maron whose spirtual descendants spread into the land of Lebanon and maintained a semitic liturgy in Syriac and Aramaic. While a few touches of the West have hit them over time (the Mitre being the most striking example) all Maronites have remained in commuion with the Bishop of Rome since the establishment of the Maronite Patriarchiate of Anotioch. There are a few other Patriarchates out of Antioch that are in Communion with the Roman See, as well as some Antiochean Patriarchs that are not. Antioch was, after all, a real happenin Christian place!

Such a gorgeous liturgy last night, and I can only re-echo that the music together with that ding of the Triangle was just so very stirring. A fitting remembrance and celebration of the legacy of the Holy Father.

Rob+

 

[Sanctus]

rcn:

I wasn’t suggesting problems with the site itself, only that the “Encyclopedia” on it is from 1913. So there’s over 90 years of recent history that just isn’t there. Although I see that their list of popes includes everyone to the present, however Pius X is the last one that has a biography.

What you’re concerend with is something that pre-dates 1913 by hundreds of years, so you should be just fine.

 

[DaveBj]

FrRobSST:

The Institution Narrative was in Aramaic, the remainder was in Syriac, save the readings and some of the Intercessions. Readings and Homily were in Italian (the homily, delivered by Cardinal Sfier, was flawless and wonderful!), and the intercessions were in several languages.

What the commentator called “Syriac” was actually Levantine-dialect Arabic, which I understand, to a certain extent.

The languages of the intercessions were representative of the other Catholic (not Orthodox) churches that are in communion with Rome. I understood the Russian, and sort of understood the Ukrainian; I would have understood better without the overriding translation.

DaveBj

 

[Pariah_Pirana]

This is one of the many reasons why the name “Roman Catholic” is very misleading–yes the majority of Catholics are Latin Rite; however not all–that name gives the impression that all Catholics are Latin Rite or that Eastern Catholics are somehow “less Catholic” yes, we are all in communion with the Bishop of Rome–but we’re just Catholic.

Yup.

I especially detest the practice by non-Catholics of describing the entire Catholic Church as the “Roman Catholic Church” so they can save some room for themselves…

 

[FrRobSST]

Pariah Pirana:

Yup.

I especially detest the practice by non-Catholics of describing the entire Catholic Church as the “Roman Catholic Church” so they can save some room for themselves…

Actually, the Council of Trent did a very good job of leaving room. I quote from Article 10 of the Creed of the Council of Trent:

“I acknowledge the Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church for the mother and mistress of all churches; and I promise true obedience to the Bishop of Rome, successor to St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and Vicar of Jesus Christ.”

I guess we should actually refer to those Churches sui juris in communion with Rome as tthe Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church. That’s an awful lot to type, though.

Rob+