Ahh. That happens when I wish to plonk on the settee…at tv time…but when she demands lap time.
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KBS
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I actually like this because it’s a strategy that kids can grasp and implement. Thank you for sharing it.
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PetraG
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a) play with your garage door (the most likely piece of tech-with-an-eye you’re likely to have) to experiment with what electronic “eyes” really are.
b) then get a 2x2 piece of cardboard and go play with a public toilet.
Then, go with what they’re comfortable and be respectful of their fears (which can be embarrassing) as you would do if they were adult friends (presuming you’re not merciless with your adult friends and their fears, lol).
PS the 1ke trick shows that adults who aren’t afraid of these things still find them annoying sometimes. (And that’s a pretty good trick…)
b) then get a 2x2 piece of cardboard and go play with a public toilet.
Then, go with what they’re comfortable and be respectful of their fears (which can be embarrassing) as you would do if they were adult friends (presuming you’re not merciless with your adult friends and their fears, lol).
PS the 1ke trick shows that adults who aren’t afraid of these things still find them annoying sometimes. (And that’s a pretty good trick…)
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Allegra
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I mean, they have to go to school. And I don’t always know in advance if a place we will go with have auto-pottties or not and I can’t have my boy peeing himself left and right. I can be sympathetic, but I can’t always guarantee their comfort in this situation.
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PetraG
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I’d say it is time to look into teaching him 1ke’s solution. Teach him how the “eye” isn’t really an “eye” in the sense of an eye that a person uses to make sense of the world, because it has no person. Not by telling him, but by letting him discover it by messing around with a garage door opener and so on.I mean, they have to go to school. And I don’t always know in advance if a place we will go with have auto-pottties or not and I can’t have my boy peeing himself left and right. I can be sympathetic, but I can’t always guarantee their comfort in this situation.
In other words, an automatic toilet is less like a person and more like a mousetrap, lol, only it is a low-resolution camera that springs it . I don’t know about you, but mousetraps make me a little nervous (in the autonomic nervous system sense), even when I don’t have the spring set. The knowledge that your finger would hurt if it was caught in one of those things is hard to shake!!
Understanding the things that make us uneasy doesn’t make us automatically feel secure, but it can sure help. The other thing that helps is having people understand that a feeling of security isn’t just a decision we make, but is also based on feelings and even reflexes.
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Allegra
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We went to IKEA today and I took my daughter in to the bathroom. The auto-toilet went off like six times while she was sitting there and by the time she got up she was laughing and shouting “naughty toilet!” Hopefully, this is a sign she’s getting over this, although IKEA’s toilets aren’t nearly as ferocious sounding as her schools.
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JanR
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I wouldn’t include mousetrap analogy in the lesson. That might scare the kid even more.
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PetraG
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Yes, absolutely, the explanations that work for some kids are not a good idea for others. You make your best guess. If a mom told me “that is absolutely not how to explain that to my son,” I wouldn’t argue with her (or him). This is one of those things where a mom or dad gathers ideas and then makes their own decision about which way to go.I wouldn’t include mouse trap analogy in the lesson. That might scare the kid even more.
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TheHolyTrinity
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Well before automatic toilets - ancient times lol - my primary school teacher told us a story about her friend. She went on to tell us that her friend sat down on the toilet, doing her business. She experienced a great pain on the left buttock cheek that made her jump up from the toilet at lightning speed!
In great pain she turned around to look in the loo (toilet), to find a rat in the bowl. Screaming in pain and terror, she ran out of the loo. She had been bitten by the rat!
For a very long time when I went to the loo I always checked the bowl to make sure no rat was in the bowl. It had come up through the sewage pipe. Don’t know why my teacher ever said what she said and I am sure I wasn’t the only young child to be cautious when going to the loo.
Having said that, I did once find a pool of water in my home next to the toilet bowl. Couldn’t figure out how it got there. Later in the day I heard a lot of noise coming from the outside toilet vent only to see a rat trying to turn around. I went inside and shut the toilet lid and placed a heavy object on the lid to prevent the rat from coming into the house. It must have come up into the toilet bowl, jumped out onto the floor. Didn’t stay - good call fro the rat!
I think the post-it note is a great idea. It doesn’t take much to scare a child when toileting and a very full bladder with potential of overstretching can lead to problems later in life with overstretching of bladder, possible ureter reflux and potential kidney damage/infection and long term constipation.
I did think about the possibility of you teaching your young ones to stand on the seat and squat over the toilet, but this may not be acceptable to some. If the post-it note does not work then this may be another option as the child can then see more and will not be so close to the toilet bowl, nor will their bottoms get potentially wet when the toilet flushes. It may empower as they have a little more control, they are higher and away from the bowl.
In great pain she turned around to look in the loo (toilet), to find a rat in the bowl. Screaming in pain and terror, she ran out of the loo. She had been bitten by the rat!
For a very long time when I went to the loo I always checked the bowl to make sure no rat was in the bowl. It had come up through the sewage pipe. Don’t know why my teacher ever said what she said and I am sure I wasn’t the only young child to be cautious when going to the loo.
Having said that, I did once find a pool of water in my home next to the toilet bowl. Couldn’t figure out how it got there. Later in the day I heard a lot of noise coming from the outside toilet vent only to see a rat trying to turn around. I went inside and shut the toilet lid and placed a heavy object on the lid to prevent the rat from coming into the house. It must have come up into the toilet bowl, jumped out onto the floor. Didn’t stay - good call fro the rat!
I think the post-it note is a great idea. It doesn’t take much to scare a child when toileting and a very full bladder with potential of overstretching can lead to problems later in life with overstretching of bladder, possible ureter reflux and potential kidney damage/infection and long term constipation.
I did think about the possibility of you teaching your young ones to stand on the seat and squat over the toilet, but this may not be acceptable to some. If the post-it note does not work then this may be another option as the child can then see more and will not be so close to the toilet bowl, nor will their bottoms get potentially wet when the toilet flushes. It may empower as they have a little more control, they are higher and away from the bowl.
I get stressed out on the behalf of tiny babies who are being changed in the restroom… and the changing table is RIGHTNEXT to the hand dryer which sounds like the blower at a car wash! I will often forego drying my hands if someone is changing her child rather than scare the poor baby half to death!
That said, there are two extremes on the auto-flush commodes… either they flush BEFORE you even start to commence operations or you have to push the button anyway or they won’t flush at all. At least that’s been my experience at work. Not to mention I’m paranoid about making sure I have nothing in my rear pockets that could fall in because my boss once lost her car keys in the toilet and when she tried to move fast enough to thwart the electric eye but the keys got flushed. Cost her $200 to have the dealership make her new keys and fob (because OF COURSE the spare was on the same ring with the rest of her keys!)
That said, there are two extremes on the auto-flush commodes… either they flush BEFORE you even start to commence operations or you have to push the button anyway or they won’t flush at all. At least that’s been my experience at work. Not to mention I’m paranoid about making sure I have nothing in my rear pockets that could fall in because my boss once lost her car keys in the toilet and when she tried to move fast enough to thwart the electric eye but the keys got flushed. Cost her $200 to have the dealership make her new keys and fob (because OF COURSE the spare was on the same ring with the rest of her keys!)
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esieffe
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Best invention since sliced bread. It is a pain to touch the handle with your foot. Or my elbow at the U.
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JanR
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Standing on the seat may be precariious – the kid could lose his balance and fall into the bowl or off onto the floor. Blocking the electric eye with a covering is a practical solution. Also, if the kid can see you using the toilet and find out that the automatic flushing isn’t harming you, he might feel more secure about using the toilet. Kids take refuge in what a parent shows them, and sometimes trust that more than merely having it explained. Seeing is believing.
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JanR
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Lesson of that experience: Always keep your spare key in a different, and safer location, still accessible if you need it.
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TheLittleLady
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Thanks to this thread, I was looking at toilets for eyes when out and about all day yesterday!
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