Tolerance as a Virtue

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Why is this so often considered a virtue? I’ve seen people claim that it is and others claim that it isn’t.

Edit: I mean tolerance as “Jesus wouldn’t judge homosexuals for being active” or “Jesus wouldn’t judge someone who’s remarried” or “Why can’t you just accept that some people won’t believe everything the Church teaches? Why are they excluded?”
 
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Why is this so often considered a virtue? I’ve seen people claim that it is and others claim that it isn’t.
First, you have to define tolerance. There are those who will claim it is “anything goes.” Others will say it’s just accepting that people have other views, other religions (or none), other life experiences.
 
Well, what happens when the pendulum swings too far the other way? You end up with people killing people because they’re not the right flavor of whatever is locally approved. Or confiscating their property because they’re the wrong flavor.

Like, look at England during Henry VIII/Edward VI/Mary I/Elizabeth I. They were really dangerous times. You’ve got the entire Dissolution of the Monasteries, where a third of the land in England and Wales gets taken away from the Church-- it’s parceled out between about 850 different monasteries/convents/friaries/abbeys/whatevers-- and the King says, “These are mine.” And the King fails to actually hold on to those lands for himself… it ends up getting given to the nobility and aristocracy who already owned probably another third of the land in England and Wales. And that’s not even counting all the private families who ended up having their property confiscated. Or the killings of priests and laiety.

And then years pass-- and say, Mary I is on the throne. The pendulum swings the other direction. Now it’s safe to be Catholic, and unsafe to not-be. More killing goes on.

And the years pass. And then it’s Elizabeth on the throne. Back to the other direction. Not safe to be Catholic. More killings and confiscation.

Why did the Pilgrims leave England during James VI? So they could practice their religion unimpeded elsewhere. But did they say, “Hey, let’s have tolerance!” No— if you wanted to live in Jamestown, you needed to subscribe to their beliefs. And if you celebrated Christmas, instead of keeping it as another work day-- that’s a fine, thank you very much.

Or, look to the modern day. There was an article in Forbes back in 2014 when ISIS had taken over Mosul, and had told the local Christians to convert, pay the jizya tax, or leave. (Before, “death” used to be one freely advertised option as well.) Or look to Syria— Paul began his ministry in Damascus, and Christians have historically made up about 10% of the population in modern times, but between now and 2011, half of Syria and Iraq’s Christians have left the cities they’ve inhabited for 2,000 years.

So-- those are examples of “intolerance”, and how it doesn’t lead to solid, trustworthy economies that people can build their families on.

But at the same time— “tolerance” is also used as one of those words that means what you want it to mean when you want it to, and doesn’t mean what you want it to mean when you don’t want it to. So, it devolves into a “let’s be tolerant-- as long as you agree with me” mindset, where if you disagree with someone, you’re automatically branded racist/bigoted/homophobic/whatever, rather than having an honest conversation with multiple perspectives.
 
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.”

G. K. Chesterton.
 
Jesus tells us to “rebuke sinners”. That requires that a judgment be made. It’s not, however, a ‘final judgment;’

Tolerance unfortunatey has been emptied of any differentiating or helpful meaning by those who want us to accept their sin, and not only accept it, but celebrate it.

Tolerance needs to be at some point rehabilitated so that it can become useful again as a virtue, a tool for real growth in human behavior and a help for us in pursuing holiness.

We should for instance tolerate minor defects in people; defects that are not moral offenses…e.g., someone’s habitual tardiness, their dominating conversations, etc.

And over time - assuming a deepening friendship - we can help our friends “refine off” these non-sinful defects, and they can help us refine off our own rough edges…because true friends want their friends to be getting always closer to Jesus, who possessed all virtues at their perfection.
 
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But this doesn’t mean we can’t help that person.

If they are our friends, we should change our way a bit (but not our principles), we should deepen our friendships, find other things to talk about, do favors for them, spend more time with them, pray for them, offer quiet sacrifices for them, perhaps a fast, an hour of adoration.

If they are friends - we should want their greatest good - which is union with God now and in the hereafter.

Writing friends off our list - or having them write us off - makes the devil very happy.

We need to be more inventive and persistent in building and enriching friendships.

The goal of life isn’t a tensionless state where everyone has told everyone else to bugger off simply because of a disagreement. The goal of life is holiness, union with God.
 
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“Put up willingly with the faults of others if you wish others to put up with yours.”
— St. John Bosco
 
But this doesn’t mean we can’t help that person.
A lot of people just can’t get it through their hand that when Jesus says to bug off and leave the matter in His hands, he means just that. “Helping” when your help has already been rejected is tantamount to not having faith in Our Lord to do his job, and that you can do it better than Him.

Sorry, but I don’t buy the excuse that this is done out of compassion. It borders on blasphemy.
 
I think you read into Jesus’s words what you want, and bend His words. It’s a very PC view. And the drama about blasphemy is below addressing.

Jesus never tells us not to pray for others, not to sacrifice for others.

He talks about the lost sheep, the prodigal son.

No soul is beyond our concern…because no soul is beyond His concern.
 
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Jesus never tells us not to pray for others, not to sacrifice for others.
Of course not, but he specifically tells us to bug off when told to do so, and leave the matter in his hands. He also tells us to remove the beam from our own eyes before worrying about the speck in our neighbors. Failure to do so is Pride, a Deadly Sin, and, as I said, is tantamount to blasphemy.
 
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Jesus is telling us to use prudence in our evangelizing, to use our time well, to understand the dynamics of human nature, to change courses of action when we (using our intellect and the virtue of prudence) see that our evangelizing efforts aren’t paying off. Time is short. Be fruitful.

I got off on a bit of a tangent by introducing the term friendship. My apologies. I don’t do “evangelizing”. My way is better friendship. Matters of the soul are the most sensitive there are. I simply live a tone of frienship where I am just trying to be a better friend. No pushing of faith or morality. My friends know I am a happily married father of many children, who loves family life. They know I work hard at my profession and I am a cheerful guy.

Eventually the questions come. Why do have so many children, why do you seem so happy in your marriage, why is your home filled with all the neighbor’s children, why are there so many bicylces on your front yard.
 
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But prudence is.
There are clearly times when it is prudent to tolerate the evil of others rather than vainly attempt to oppose it.
 
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Jesus - wouldn’t judge active homosexuality ?

Well, I do know that God is the ultimate law giver and judge.

And Sodom and Gomorrah was reduced to smoldering ashes.

Not to mention what Saint Paul declares in his epistles.

You have to define “ tolerance “ - what it personally means to you.
 
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What is it with posters and the need to assert silly meaningless universals.

If one must assert grand universals then it is more accurate to say that it is personal sin that should never be tolerated not evil.
Sin is a subset of evil, the remainder allows for toleration and cooperation in many cases.
 
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There is right. There is wrong. There is nothing in between.
 
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