The_Reginator
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But we have video footage of the Pope watching as the idols were worshipped.
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The_Reginator
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I am DEEPLY disturbed by this.
Exorcists have a whole different way of looking at what is going on in this world as they are looking at the SPIRITUAL realm.
A huge concern for me as I read these posts is that some Catholics don’t even care whether or not evil spirits now reside in the Vatican.
I am DEEPLY disturbed by this.
Exorcists have a whole different way of looking at what is going on in this world as they are looking at the SPIRITUAL realm.
A huge concern for me as I read these posts is that some Catholics don’t even care whether or not evil spirits now reside in the Vatican.
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twf
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I hear her soul is so unclean, pure water can melt her! 
We’ll see who gets the reference.
We’ll see who gets the reference.
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twf
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Giving power to a mere name strikes me as superstitious. Surely intent to invoke is also required. Otherwise saying the weekday Wednesday would be dangerous.
Scripture names demons. Those names are sometimes said, out loud, by the lector / reader / priest at Mass. Yet it’s ok as there is no intention to invoke the demon.
Scripture names demons. Those names are sometimes said, out loud, by the lector / reader / priest at Mass. Yet it’s ok as there is no intention to invoke the demon.
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pnewton
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Same here. It is a feast day at my house. I will leave all the partisan bickering for others. I still don’t by the hype around this supposed paganism.
Do you feel comfortable claiming the Pope to be in mortal sin?
There are any number of things, some likely some not, that could lead to the Pope not being fully complicit in what is going on.
Isn’t it better to let God stand in judgement of the situation and simply pray?
Tis_Bearself
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She’s the patroness of Mexico and also of the unborn, because she was pregnant in the apparition.
In USA, her feast is generally celebrated with many days of preparation and a big celebration at parishes with large Mexican-American populations. They have special ceremonies, processions, musicians putting on a concert to Our Lady outside Mass, folk dancers dancing before her outside Mass, the works. At parishes without a lot of Mexican heritage, her feast is overshadowed by that of the Immaculate Conception, as the Immaculata is the patroness of USA.
In USA, the National Night of Prayer for Life is tonight and Our Lady of Guadalupe is the image used although it’s on the Immaculate Conception vigil and feast.
In USA, her feast is generally celebrated with many days of preparation and a big celebration at parishes with large Mexican-American populations. They have special ceremonies, processions, musicians putting on a concert to Our Lady outside Mass, folk dancers dancing before her outside Mass, the works. At parishes without a lot of Mexican heritage, her feast is overshadowed by that of the Immaculate Conception, as the Immaculata is the patroness of USA.
In USA, the National Night of Prayer for Life is tonight and Our Lady of Guadalupe is the image used although it’s on the Immaculate Conception vigil and feast.
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halogirl
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Ah we had one hymn at the end of mass as a nod to the immaculate conception feast tomorrow. No fiesta 
Tis_Bearself
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In your country you have Walsingham. I have to go to the Ordinariate parish here to find anyone who even knows about her.
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halogirl
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It’s so hard to get to though from where I am. nice to know it’s there tho xx
Mark121359
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Best thing to come out of this whole debacle!
“Pachamama sleeps with the fishes.”
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TheLittleLady
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I’d suggest opening a thread on this specific topic.
Speak to your Pastor about having a commercial toy in the Sanctuary. I know it would not fly around here!
Speak to your Pastor about having a commercial toy in the Sanctuary. I know it would not fly around here!
Tis_Bearself
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Now Cardinal Burke is calling for yet another day of Pachamama reparation on the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the 12th.
On the one hand, I like Cardinal Burke and our failings are so great that we could do reparation for all mankind’s sins (not specifically Pachamama) every day and it wouldn’t be enough. On the other hand, regarding Pachamama reparation specifically, I’m beginning to feel like “enough is enough” and God heard our prayer the first time.
On the one hand, I like Cardinal Burke and our failings are so great that we could do reparation for all mankind’s sins (not specifically Pachamama) every day and it wouldn’t be enough. On the other hand, regarding Pachamama reparation specifically, I’m beginning to feel like “enough is enough” and God heard our prayer the first time.
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Margaret_Ann
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Yes, God heard our prayer the first time. But imo, He’d like to hear it again…
catholic03
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Me too. He’s a very honorable and dignified Cardinal and Bishop.
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Irishmom2
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That’s a good one, thanks for sharing that idea.
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Rubee
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What a strange comment: Is it a mistake to take from this that you disbelieve the Church’s infallibility dogmas? In what way do you think the Church makes mistakes in her teaching? If the Church teaches error, what is the point in being Catholic over any other religious affiliation?
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godisgood77
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Yes that would be a mistake to assume I disbelieve dogmas. There are various levels of authority in Church teaching…for example, an apostolic constitution carries more weight than and encyclical. An encyclical carries more weight than a apostolic exhortation, etc. I do not argue against any dogmas…
Practically speaking, here are the type of things i’m talking about … the discipline of unmarried priests can be changed. The Church teaching on the death penalty has been developed to make it inadmissible. Or a more complex issue like freedom of conscience. Pope Gregory XVI in an 1832 encyclical condemned freedom of conscience in society as an “absurd and erroneous teaching or rather madness”. Pope Leo XIII condemned “the modern liberties” and opposed the equality and participation of citizens in civic and political life. He wrote that “the untutored multitude” must “be controlled by the authority of law”. Vatican II, however, accepted religious liberty for all human beings.
Tis_Bearself
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I am a week late with this but I was so busy it completely slipped my mind - and also it was not really hyped by the media like Woodstock was, since it wasn’t a pleasant event - but my friend just reminded me,
Dec. 6, 2019 was the 50th Anniversary of Altamont, the violent free concert where the Hells Angels killed an attendee a few minutes after the Stones had finished singing “Sympathy for the Devil”. The victim’s last moments and a whole lot of other violent and awful stuff that went on at the show were captured on film by cameramen making the Maysles Brothers’ documentary “Gimme Shelter”.
en.wikipedia.org
I don’t think the exorcists were thinking of that when they picked Dec. 6, 2019 for the Day of Reparation, but it’s one of those “coincidences” that doesn’t seem so coincidental. It freaked me out a bit actually when I found out just now. I’m glad I did the prayer and fast day.
Dec. 6, 2019 was the 50th Anniversary of Altamont, the violent free concert where the Hells Angels killed an attendee a few minutes after the Stones had finished singing “Sympathy for the Devil”. The victim’s last moments and a whole lot of other violent and awful stuff that went on at the show were captured on film by cameramen making the Maysles Brothers’ documentary “Gimme Shelter”.
Altamont Free Concert - Wikipedia
I don’t think the exorcists were thinking of that when they picked Dec. 6, 2019 for the Day of Reparation, but it’s one of those “coincidences” that doesn’t seem so coincidental. It freaked me out a bit actually when I found out just now. I’m glad I did the prayer and fast day.
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