Tools for training children in the tradition

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Keeping in mind that the goal is to raise properly formed Catholic men and women, what tools/guides do you use or suggest to people who are just starting to or have become attracted to the traditions of the Church particularly under the old rites of the Church? Many of these people are converts or men and women who only knew the novus ordo or may feel they were inadequately catechised.

We can drive many people to distraction here on CA with our spirited debates and opinions. Unfortunately many do not understand or want to discuss the issues from the traditional view. We appear to contradict each other and lack Charity in the process.

It also makes it clear we have little in the way of formal training to teach traditional thinking, rubrics and training of the Church. Not many priests have this information anymore and not everyone has the luxury of having several generations of traditional formation or a FSSP or the like as a resource. These people are coming to those of us who are in the Church. How do we begin to guide them and our families?
 
🙂 In terms of books? For starters…

The Baltimore Catechism is really good. It’s a must.

I also like Seton Home Study’s religion books. The religious artwork reproductions in these books are outstanding.

The bible history books and Church history book Seton offers are all great, too.

The “vision books”, on the lives of the saints are great.

“St. Joseph picture books” are very nice, too.

Mary Fabian Wyndeatt’s coloring books are fabulous.

Here’s a nice one if you’re looking for activities that will tie in with a special feast day:
setonbooks.com/viewone.php?ToView=M-RLBK-14

“Know your Mass” (comic book style, from the '50s), is a goodie:
ecclesiadei.org/missalfm.htm
 
Jacafamala said:
🙂 In terms of books? For starters…

The Baltimore Catechism is really good. It’s a must.

I also like Seton Home Study’s religion books. The religious artwork reproductions in these books are outstanding.

The bible history books and Church history book Seton offers are all great, too.

The “vision books”, on the lives of the saints are great.

“St. Joseph picture books” are very nice, too.

Mary Fabian Wyndeatt’s coloring books are fabulous.

Here’s a nice one if you’re looking for activities that will tie in with a special feast day:
setonbooks.com/viewone.php?ToView=M-RLBK-14

“Know your Mass” (comic book style, from the '50s), is a goodie:
ecclesiadei.org/missalfm.htm
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All these are good.👍

Also look at yard sales. I found a cookbook that is based on the Traditional Liturgical Year. It has special recipes for Feast and Fast days. It was a real find.😃
 
If you want to teach children about the tradition of the Church, try the early Church Fathers Particularly St. Cyprian of Cathage and his writing “On the Unity of the Church”. Then try the church doctrins on social teaching and justice.

Peace,
FAB
 
KathleenElsie said:
All these are good.👍

Also look at yard sales. I found a cookbook that is based on the Traditional Liturgical Year. It has special recipes for Feast and Fast days. It was a real find.😃
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I think you got lucky finding that. :cool: Maybe ebay for used books.🙂 I’ve found some nice old Catholic sacramentals there.
 
FAB said:
If you want to teach children about the tradition of the Church, try the early Church Fathers Particularly St. Cyprian of Cathage and his writing “On the Unity of the Church”. Then try the church doctrins on social teaching and justice.

Peace,
FAB
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Nah, we prefer the coloring books. 🙂 Thanks anyway…
 
Jacafamala said:
The Baltimore Catechism is really good. It’s a must.

“Know your Mass” (comic book style, from the '50s), is a goodie:
ecclesiadei.org/missalfm.htm
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Both of these are great. In fact, I would say “Know your Mass” is relevant for all - I used it before my first TLM. Very informative and helpful.

A copy of the Baltimore Catechism can be found here (click on the Ebooks link):
hismercy.ca/
 
FAB said:
Then, unfortunately you are missing out on basis of church teaching. To worried about bells, veils and songs.

Peace,
FAB
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You’re the one too worried about bells, veils and songs and you’re here to stir it up. That is how you have your fun. So silly.
 
franklinf said:
Both of these are great. In fact, I would say “Know your Mass” is relevant for all - I used it before my first TLM. Very informative and helpful.

A copy of the Baltimore Catechism can be found here (click on the Ebooks link):
hismercy.ca/
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Yes, I agree: “Know your Mass” is relevant for all.🙂

Thanks for adding that link. 🙂 BTW, not that the Seton religion books are the only thing going, but they follow along with the BC themes week by week, fleshing out the lesson very nicely.
 
Jacafamala said:
You’re the one too worried about bells, veils and songs and you’re here to stir it up. That is how you have your fun. So silly.
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So wrong, I care very little about those things. I am concerned about the unity of the church and how those things, such as going back to the Baltimore Cat. leads away from the Church’s current teaching. What good does it do to teach children things of the past instead of the current catichism? Add to that the Church’s social teaching and they and the world can come to know Jesus.
It’s not about fun, and I’m far from being silly. Trying to train children in ways that the church no longer advances is misleading and confusing them in their faith.

Peace,
FAB
 
FAB said:
So wrong, I care very little about those things. I am concerned about the unity of the church and how those things, such as going back to the Baltimore Cat. leads away from the Church’s current teaching. What good does it do to teach children things of the past instead of the current catichism? Add to that the Church’s social teaching and they and the world can come to know Jesus.
It’s not about fun, and I’m far from being silly. Trying to train children in ways that the church no longer advances is misleading and confusing them in their faith.

Peace,
FAB
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It’s silly to think we can go back to St. Cyprian of Cathage and his writing “On the Unity of the Church”, but somehow the BC is outdated. Silly, I say. So very unprogressive.
 
FAB said:
So wrong, I care very little about those things. I am concerned about the unity of the church and how those things, such as going back to the Baltimore Cat. leads away from the Church’s current teaching. What good does it do to teach children things of the past instead of the current catichism? Add to that the Church’s social teaching and they and the world can come to know Jesus.
It’s not about fun, and I’m far from being silly. Trying to train children in ways that the church no longer advances is misleading and confusing them in their faith.

Peace,
FAB
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The question was how to train children. The sources Jacafamala listed are appropriate for younger children, and absolutely do not contradict any Church teachings. In all new reprints of the BC, any disciplines that have been changed (such as current fasting/abstinence guidelines) are always clearly identified.

The current Catechism, while very good, is generally not useful until high school. Same with the Church Fathers; they can be very dense.

I’m not really sure what you mean about “trying to teach children in ways that the church no longer advances”. Since the truths of our faith are unchanging, it shouldn’t matter whether one is reading a book printed in 1851, 1951, or 2001.
 
Hey guys, as the OP I am asking you to go somewhere else with this–you have both effectively hijacked this topic. I said in the OP that this was IN THE TRADITION, so this topic should not suprise or confuse anyone. Please stay on the topic and be as helpful as possible-Thanks
 
bubba451 said:
Hey guys, as the OP I am asking you to go somewhere else with this–you have both effectively hijacked this topic. I said in the OP that this was IN THE TRADITION, so this topic should not suprise or confuse anyone. Please stay on the topic and be as helpful as possible-Thanks
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This is a total set up FAB has provided. I have not hijacked anything, merely called him on it. So this is a bogus thread.
Edited to add: Bogus, bubba, real bogus, bubba.
 
Praying the Rosary as a family, going to Mass together, and Confession, these are all so important, of course. Also having lots of sacramentals in the house. A family altar, where people can gather at the end of the day for prayer is really nice, too. I think it’s a good idea to pick several feast days, perhaps the feasts of special saints, such as namesakes, that fall throughout the year that you and your family can honor.

One thing my family really hasn’t done yet that I’d like to do is to make some pilgrimages to special shrines together.
 
Jacafamala said:
It’s silly to think we can go back to St. Cyprian of Cathage and his writing “On the Unity of the Church”, but somehow the BC is outdated. Silly, I say. So very unprogressive.
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Silly, Is it silly to quote St Augustine? Or any of the the early Church Fathers? It is their writngs and theology which is the basis of Catholic faith and tradition.

St. Cyprian wrote on the dangers and problems of having different factions in the church. What would you call a group that wants to ignor current approved church teaching to go back to one that is no longer used, but a faction in the church which causes dis-unity. The reading of St. Cyprian, by the way, is ment for the adults.

My point is not to lead children astray in thier faith by teaching doctrine that the Church no longer deems appropriate.

Peace,
FAB
 
tcraig said:
The question was how to train children. The sources Jacafamala listed are appropriate for younger children, and absolutely do not contradict any Church teachings. In all new reprints of the BC, any disciplines that have been changed (such as current fasting/abstinence guidelines) are always clearly identified.

The current Catechism, while very good, is generally not useful until high school. Same with the Church Fathers; they can be very dense.

I’m not really sure what you mean about “trying to teach children in ways that the church no longer advances”. Since the truths of our faith are unchanging, it shouldn’t matter whether one is reading a book printed in 1851, 1951, or 2001.
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Example- linbo, no longer taught, It’s a sin to eat meat on Friday, no longer taught. These things served a purpose for their time, but should not be confused as truths of the church. Our unstanding of God has always evolved in our faith throught he guidance of the Holy Spirit.
There are many excelant books in print today that can be used to teach young children our faith without going to a garage sale to find ones that are out of date. If you are going to teach your children “in the tradition” then our tradition is to follow our bishops and to teach what they have approved.

Peace,
FAB
 
Jacafamala said:
Praying the Rosary as a family, going to Mass together, and Confession, these are all so important, of course. Also having lots of sacramentals in the house. A family altar, where people can gather at the end of the day for prayer is really nice, too. I think it’s a good idea to pick several feast days, perhaps the feasts of special saints, such as namesakes, that fall throughout the year that you and your family can honor.

One thing my family really hasn’t done yet that I’d like to do is to make some pilgrimages to special shrines together.
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These are all wonderful ways to teach.
Peace,
FAB
 
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