Top Ten Reasons to be Episcopalian

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mercygate, Can I ask why Angelican sacraments are not considered valid? To my knowledge, they left the Church and became the Church of England. The didn’t take part in the protestant movement, so how did they lost apostalistic succession?
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They were violently Protestant in the 17th, 18th and 19th Centuries. They abandoned the Catholic intention of consecration in their ceremonies.

The “catholicity” of much Anglicanism today dates from the Oxford Movement in the first third of the 19th Century – of which J. H. Newman was a part. Early on in that period, clergy were thown in jail for “papist” pretensions, such as putting candles on the altar.

Since the publication of Apostolicae Curae many Anglicans have sought to reconstruct their Apostolic lines by having episcopal consecrations joined by bishops from illicit but valid jurisdictions, such as the Old Catholics and Polish National Catholics.

Leaving the Anglican Communion nearly broke my heart. But by the time I left, the bright promise of the 1950s and 1960s, when we saw reunion with Rome on the horizon had utterly vanished. I certainly knew that it would never happen in my lifetime, and I *knew *that I had to die Catholic - not just by my definition by the Christ’s definition: under the mantle of Peter. One feels like an unwilling refugee on this side of the Tiber - but WHAT magnificent peace; what joy to be in Christ’s Church on His terms.
 
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mercygate:
They were violently Protestant in the 17th, 18th and 19th Centuries. They abandoned the Catholic intention of consecration in their ceremonies.
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Wow. I didn’t realize any of that. I thought that their formation was 100% independant of the protestant ref. You learn something new everyday I suppose. What about right now, though. Are they basically spitting up with the conversative side trying to reconcile with the church while the liberal side tries to spilt even further (ie, gay marriage, etc.)
 
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Jabronie:
Wow. I didn’t realize any of that. I thought that their formation was 100% independant of the protestant ref. You learn something new everyday I suppose. What about right now, though. Are they basically spitting up with the conversative side trying to reconcile with the church while the liberal side tries to spilt even further (ie, gay marriage, etc.)
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There are some already-split-off Anglican groups approaching Rome. There are quiet moves within the Anglican Communion proper holding some kind of dialogue (I’m not really up on this).

The disintegration began in the 1970s and continues. A friend of mine is in what they call “the continuing church” – people in several Anglican communities who have split off from the Episcopal Church at different times but still talk to each other. I call them the Church of the Month Club because they split and re-align about every 3 years. The “continuing church” has been a bishop factory: consecrating dozens of bishops – almost one in every garage. Even though the best friend I ever had in my life is one of those bishops, it’s all very, very sorry. There is an intransigent anti-Catholicism among many of them. They want the furniture but won’t stomach the authority – which is what makes the “furniture” so attractive.
 
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Jabronie:
mercygate, Can I ask why Angelican sacraments are not considered valid? To my knowledge, they left the Church and became the Church of England. The didn’t take part in the protestant movement, so how did they lost apostalistic succession?
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When the King of England decided to ordain Bishops in the Church of England they lost apostalistic succession.
 
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