Tough Time With New Wording At Mass

[SMHW]

“And also with you”…Me too same problem. I guess being an old dog I dont want to learn new tricks, lol

You aren’t an “old” dog unless you can remember saying, “And with your spirit,” back in the mid to late sixties.

If you do remember that (or if you’re so old you’ve already forgotten you ever did that) then that’s okay. I occasionally mess up too and I’m only 54.

 

[PacoG]

AFAIK, only the wording in the English Mass has changed. The Spanish Mass has not been affected, although there has been discussion on changing these texts as well.

With the new translation, the Spanish and English texts are closer. Being bilingual, I used to wonder why the Spanish translation was so different from the English one. Now they are almost alike.

 

[PacoG]

Our late pastor spent his last few months of life teaching us the new translation. We started in September with the Mass cards. On the first Sunday in Advent, we were so ready. In early February, three weeks before he died, he taught us to sing Prolux’s Gloria Simplex. (It was the Sunday that all the deacons were on retreat. He told the part time assistant pastor to stay home. We were totally his for one last Sunday. He mustered every last ounce of energy to say the Saturday Anticipated and all four Sunday Masses. It was the last Sunday he said Mass for us. That was his farewell gift to us…teaching us to sing the Gloria in the new translation.)

When our new pastor took over in May, he complemented us on how well we had the new translation down, complemented us on how we sung the Gloria and said “someone taught you well.” There wasn’t a dry eye in the Church.

 

[Brendan]

With the new translation, the Spanish and English texts are closer. Being bilingual, I used to wonder why the Spanish translation was so different from the English one. Now they are almost alike.

I know one of the bishops of Tanzania very well. He told me on several occasions on how much he was looking forward to the new English Translation.

Tanzania is a Swahili speaking country, but with a substantial English language presence, in that all secondary education is done, by law, in English.

So students at his schools have long recognized that what they were saying at Mass at school in English was substantially different from what they were saying at Mass in Swahili.

He was looking forward to the new translation so he didn’t have to try and explain why English cut so much out of the Mass ( his words)

 

[ProVobis]

With the new translation, the Spanish and English texts are closer.

I can’t comment on how close they are, but at last Saturday night’s Mass I did hear “por vosotros y por muchos” instead of “por vosotros y por todos.” At the Papal Mass in Cuba, I heard the Pope use the latter. I believe this is the only Spanish change unlike the rewrite of much of the English.

 

[PacoG]

I can’t comment on how close they are, but at last Saturday night’s Mass I did hear “por vosotros y por muchos” instead of “por vosotros y por todos.” At the Papal Mass in Cuba, I heard the Pope use the latter. I believe this is the only Spanish change unlike the rewrite of much of the English.

I don’t think there is one unified Spanish translation (if Benedictgal were still around she could tell us). There are several Spanish translations. For example, the Spaniard translation of the Sanctus says “Senor Dios de los ejercitos” (Lord God of the armies) while the Mexican translation has “Senior Dios del universo” (Lord God of the universe) and another translation (I don’t remember which one, but I think it’s one of the Central American nations) has “Senor Dios sabbeoth” (Lord God sabbeoth).