Paul said “The traditions we have handed down to you” - including written and oral. You are wrong again.
But, He simply chose the Church He gave us. Duh.
Where is the evidence that Paul is referring to the other apostles in this statement ?
Soory about that. Trying to understand what SACRED TRADITION is a such a nebulous thing to understand. Can you give me a couple of concrete examples of this SACRED TRADITION?
I think the frustration you and many others are feeling towards me is the difficulty in trying to explain something that is not that well defined or known by catholics themselves. Claims are made by catholics but when i ask for specifics i’m considered one who does the work of the devil. Its truly tragic that you put me in league with the devil when i question your answers and don’t agree with you on some points.
That may be but don’t boast as its something by the church’ own power that made this possible though.
And the context for this is?
OK…you tell me what he means by “we” and “us” mister smartypants.
We’ve been over this a hundred times. Did you miss the explanations? Sacred Tradition is that which was passed down by the apostles through their successors. It is not a list of doctrines, but rather the test by which doctrines are determined to be true or not.
It is clear to any decent person that this is, indeed, NOT what you are trying to do. Do you think you have somebody fooled?
One concrete example of Sacred Tradition is the Bible.
Can you think of more?
How about the Trinity?
Was not eating meat on Fridays during lent, Stations of the cross and saying the rosary SACRED TRADITIONS?
The only thing i know from the passage is that its Paul. i don’t the identies of the “we” and “us”. Do you?
Interesting. What are these “tests” by which doctrines are determined to be true or not?
i have some.
One thing i’m finding out here is that some catholics claim to read minds and they can get real nasty.
You are so right I have wanted to say this from the beginning he is the devils desciple. We have all given him compelling arguments on our sacred Deposit of faith and it goes in one ear and out the other. Whether he is being obstinate or just plain ignorant is beyond comprhension.
I don’t want to see you or others get taken off these formns but i think you and others are violating this rule:
Dude - don’t point fingers. You are being absolutely obstinate and rude. After all the patient answers people have given you regarding Sacred Tradition and you come up with, “Was not eating meat on Fridays during lent, Stations of the cross and saying the rosary SACRED TRADITIONS?” Again, go back and read something one of these kind people have given you and stop harrassing with ignorance.
He is not here to learn, but to show Catholics that what they are being taught by the Church is wrong. The harrassment with ignorance is part of the dance. He makes it appear as though he is 'justasking" questions, but it is really a ruse to open an opportunity to malign Catholic Teaching.
Let’s engage some common sense, shall we? Lent is part of the Liturgical calendar that did not exist in apostolic times, so it cannot be part of the Sacred Tradition.