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Does anyone else read this website? If so, what are they? SSPX or sedavacantist? In particular I am talking about Marian T. Horvat and Prof. Plinio Correa de Oliveira. How come the works of Prof. Oliveira are never mentioned either on CAF or by any clergy?
 
I’d never heard of it before, but I just went to that site. They don’t explain much up-front, and that’s never a good sign. Anyway, as an exercise, I did a search on “Benedict XVI” just to see what it gave. Plenty of “hits” but nothing at all particularly favorable or from what I could see, even truthful. Looks to me like they put out pretty much the same tripe the Dimond Brothers spew. Whatever. First time, last time. I see no reason to waste bandwidth on that kind of right-wing extremist trash. Once was more than enough for me. Never again.
 
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I’d never heard of it before, but I just went to that site. They don’t explain much up-front, and that’s never a good sign. Anyway, as an exercise, I did a search on “Benedict XVI” just to see what it gave. Plenty of “hits” but nothing at all particularly favorable or from what I could see, even truthful. Looks to me like they put out pretty much the same tripe the Dimond Brothers spew. Whatever. First time, last time. I see no reason to waste bandwidth on that kind of right-wing extremist trash. Once was more than enough for me. Never again.
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what do you define as right-wing extremist trash? I’ll be honest I admire Francisco Franco. Does that make me a right-wing extremist?
 
notredame_999 said:
what do you define as right-wing extremist trash? I’ll be honest I admire Francisco Franco. Does that make me a right-wing extremist?
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Don’t try to bait me, 'cause it ain’t gonna work. I’m not getting into that. The question posed in the OP was about that website. And I really don’t care if somewhere on that site they sing the praises of Franco … or even his mentor. As far as I’m concerned, the site is less than trash.
 
It’s just a spiritually poisonous group of dissenters. Here they are claiming that Cardinal Newman is not really beatified, griping about cultural displays at the Pope’s audiences, blasting the horrible Mother Teresa, arguing that unwed mothers, even if they repent of any sins, should not be admitted “to a normal social life,” and on an on ad nauseam in that vein.

Malphono’s right that it’s a waste of bandwidth, but beyond that it’s downright harmful. Read your Bible instead.
 
malphono said:
Don’t try to bait me, 'cause it ain’t gonna work. I’m not getting into that. The question posed in the OP was about that website. And I really don’t care if somewhere on that site they sing the praises of Franco … or even his mentor. As far as I’m concerned, the site is less than trash.
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I wasn’t trying to bait you it was a legitimate question. I admire Franco and prefer a government where the catholic religion is enscribed in its constitution. Does that make me an extremist? If the answer is yes, I could see why you and others have a problem with that site.
 
MarkThompson said:
It’s just a spiritually poisonous group of dissenters. Here they are claiming that Cardinal Newman is not really beatified, griping about cultural displays at the Pope’s audiences, blasting the horrible Mother Teresa, arguing that unwed mothers, even if they repent of any sins, should not be admitted “to a normal social life,” and on an on ad nauseam in that vein.

Malphono’s right that it’s a waste of bandwidth, but beyond that it’s downright harmful. Read your Bible instead.
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read your bible? Isn’t that protestant ideology? Sholdn’t we allow the church to interpret the bible, not us the laity? At least I think that’s what the church has taught for centuries.

I agree their tone is a bit uncharitable and smacks even of disrespect at times. However, the information, history, and stories they provide are very thought provoking.
 
notredame_999 said:
I agree their tone is a bit uncharitable and smacks even of disrespect at times. However, the information, history, and stories they provide are very thought provoking.
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Are you familiar with the Dimond Brothers?
 
notredame_999 said:
read your bible? Isn’t that protestant ideology?
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I so hope you’re joking, yet I fear you’re not. I can guarantee that ten minutes with the Holy Scriptures will profit you more than all the Tradition In Action’s of the world.

Pope St. Gregory I:
The Emperor of heaven, the Lord of men and of angels, has sent you His epistles for your life’s advantage—and yet you neglect to read them eagerly. Study them, I beg you, and meditate daily on the words of your Creator.
Catechism of Pope Pius X:
28 Q: Is the reading of the Bible necessary to all Christians?

A: The reading of the Bible is not necessary to all Christians since they are instructed by the Church; however its reading is very useful and recommended to all.
Pope Leo XIII:
The solicitude of the apostolic office naturally urges and even compels us . . . to desire that this grand source of Catholic revelation [the Bible] should be made safely and abundantly accessible to the flock of Jesus Christ . . . . Let all, therefore, especially the novices of the ecclesiastical army, understand how deeply the sacred Books should be esteemed, and with what eagerness and reverence they should approach this great arsenal of heavenly arms. . . . As St. Jerome says, “To be ignorant of the Scripture is not to know Christ.”
 
notredame_999 said:
read your bible? Isn’t that protestant ideology? Sholdn’t we allow the church to interpret the bible, not us the laity? At least I think that’s what the church has taught for centuries.
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The church may interpret the bible for us but we still need to be familiar with the words. I for one am planning on spending more time reading and understanding what the bible says. Some prefer to listen and CDs are available for a good price.
 
MarkThompson said:
I so hope you’re joking, yet I fear you’re not. I can guarantee that ten minutes with the Holy Scriptures will profit you more than all the Tradition In Action’s of the world.

Pope St. Gregory I:
The Emperor of heaven, the Lord of men and of angels, has sent you His epistles for your life’s advantage—and yet you neglect to read them eagerly. Study them, I beg you, and meditate daily on the words of your Creator.
Catechism of Pope Pius X:
28 Q: Is the reading of the Bible necessary to all Christians?

A: The reading of the Bible is not necessary to all Christians since they are instructed by the Church; however its reading is very useful and recommended to all.
Pope Leo XIII:
The solicitude of the apostolic office naturally urges and even compels us . . . to desire that this grand source of Catholic revelation [the Bible] should be made safely and abundantly accessible to the flock of Jesus Christ . . . . Let all, therefore, especially the novices of the ecclesiastical army, understand how deeply the sacred Books should be esteemed, and with what eagerness and reverence they should approach this great arsenal of heavenly arms. . . . As St. Jerome says, “To be ignorant of the Scripture is not to know Christ.”
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Your right that was a stupid thing for me to say. We should read the bible carefully, and not take the text out of context. For example, a few weeks ago I read in the bible that Jesus said to enter the kingdom of God one must hate their mother and father etc. We must remember that Christ often spoke in hyperbole.

Another issue is when Protestants cite bible passages and use it to support an anti-catholic bias.

Thats what I should have said.
 
notredame_999 said:
Another issue is when Protestants cite bible passages and use it to support an anti-catholic bias.

Thats what I should have said.
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That’s very true. Really, I wasn’t trying to make a point about the Bible at all, only to say that your time would be far better spent reading any sort of orthodox, spiritually beneficial material (the Bible, a sermon of St. Augustine, the writings of St. Teresa of Avila, any of the Holy Father’s books, etc.) than reading any of the spiteful, soul-damaging writings from Tradition In Action.
 
I have seen a few articles from Tradition in action, however I take it with “a grain of salt”. Now more than ever people must be weary of right and left wing groups. TIA being the former of course. I doubt they are sedevacantist, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

I usually read their historical articles (i.e. their article on Pius IX, by Oliveira - The Grandeur of Pius IX in the Fight for the Papal States)

I am a VERY large fan of tradition, so I am not complaining by them being a bit conservative.

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