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This is their motto on their website:

“Tradition In Action is committed to defend the perennial Magisterium of Holy Mother Church and Catholic traditions. TIA also works for a restoration of Christian civilization, adapted to contemporary historical circumstances.”

They are a traditional Catholic organization. They are not Sedevacantists. They take the position of resistence when it comes to the liberalism in the Church.

They are devoted to Our Lady of Good Success.

traditioninaction.org/
 
The two men at the left of the picture are some of the leaders of the traditional movement in the United states.

The gentleman in the black suit is John Vennari, the editor of Catholic Family News and he has great lectures on CDs.

cfnews.org/cfn.htm

The gentleman in the grey suit is Michael Matt, the editor of The Remant, a very famous Catholic Trad newspaper.

remnantnewspaper.com/
 
That is because back when the culture was still sane and still Christian, people took life seriously.

Life is serious. It is not a game or joke.

The modern world tries to to turn everything into a joke because
the most important thing in life to today’s man is to have fun and live for pleasure.
"Philippians
Chapter 4: 4-8

4 Rejoice in the Lord always. I shall say it again: rejoice!
5 our kindness should be known to all. The Lord is near.
6 Have no anxiety at all, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, make your requests known to God.
7 Then the peace of God that surpasses all understanding will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.
8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence and if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things."
 
That is because back when the culture was still sane and still Christian, people took life seriously.

Life is serious. It is not a game or joke.

The modern world tries to to turn everything into a joke because
the most important thing in life to today’s man is to have fun and live for pleasure.
Good point. Perhaps the folks in the photo simply embrace the Virtue of Humility.
 
Good point. Perhaps the folks in the photo simply embrace the Virtue of Humility.
Come on, you know better than that. The greatest saints of the Church have been the most humble and the most joyful. Some have had a wondeful sense of humour.

Remember St. Francis dancing and playing a tamborine in front of the Blessed Sacrament when it was exposed. He sang for joy and laughed. That’s how joyful he was to be in the presence of his Lord.

Remember St. Teresa of Avila’s sense of humour and how she teased the Lord. Everytime she had a grave difficulty she looked at the Blessed Sacrament and said, “Don’t complain if you have few friends.”

Remember Bl. Mother Teresa of Calcutta who wrote in her rule that the sisters must always smile and if they were not in the mood for smiling they should remain in their rooms until they recovered their smile. The only time that we ever saw Mother not smiling was when she was praying or when she was delivering a lecture.

Remember Bl. John XXII who was seated next to the French President’s wife and offered her an apple three time. Apparently she was wearing a rather revealing dress. When she asked him why he insisted that she eat the apple he responded, “Madam, it was not until Eve ate the apple that she realized that she was naked.”

Rememer St. Vincent de Paul, when his Daughters of Charity went out to serve the poor they wore nun’s habits. He walked into a hospital and took a pair of scissors and cut their veils and scapulars. When Louise de Marillac asked him why he had done this, he smiled and said, those things are getting in the way of charity, get them off and he made them wear the secular dress of the common French nurse. He left the hospital feeling very proud of his own mischief. That’s why the daughters of chrity wore coronets and a white collar to the waist. It used to be a white veil and a white scapular to the floor.

Read the letters between Francis de Sales and Jane de Chantal. They are full of teasing back and forth.

When Francis of Assisi was near death he asked to be made more like Christ. Christ granted his prayer by imprinting his body with the Stigmata. St. Clare came to bring him soup. When she saw the stigmata, she looked at Francis and said, “Have you had enough?” She wasn’t talking about the soup. Her biographers say that she said it with a smile in her voice.

So the greatest of saints had a wondeful sense of humor and humility.

JR 🙂
 
This is their motto on their website:

“Tradition In Action is committed to defend the perennial Magisterium of Holy Mother Church and Catholic traditions. TIA also works for a restoration of Christian civilization, adapted to contemporary historical circumstances.”

They are a traditional Catholic organization. They are not Sedevacantists. They take the position of resistence when it comes to the liberalism in the Church.

They are devoted to Our Lady of Good Success.

traditioninaction.org/
Based on what I’m seeing, they seem to be resisting almost everything, liberal or otherwise. There are polemics against Michael Davies, Bishop Bruskewitz, and the Holy Father (or should I say “Pope Ratzinger”?). Even the 1962 missal gets slammed. What exactly does that leave?
 
Based on what I’m seeing, they seem to be resisting almost everything, liberal or otherwise. There are polemics against Michael Davies, Bishop Bruskewitz, and the Holy Father (or should I say “Pope Ratzinger”?). Even the 1962 missal gets slammed. What exactly does that leave?
Apparently, everyone in the world has a fault but themselves.

While I don’t think TIA is Sedevacantist (and to be fair, some articles that does not discuss the all-too common are quite informative), the position it takes is a bit too much; they take a lot of trivial things too seriously.

(That said, I actually prefer people who take a picture to have a serious face rather than having a rather ‘cheesy’ and false smile on their faces, but that’s just me :D)

Sure, “there is a time for everything”, but the last time I checked I did not find any Saint or Council say that the way to holiness is to put on a dour face and be deadly serious all the time.

Even God apparently knows how to break a leg every now and then. Why else would the Bible (in the original language, at least) have wordplay, for example? 😉
 
I am also reminded of the words of religious historian Jarislav Pelican: “Tradition is the living Faith of the dead. Traditionalism is the **dead faith **of the living.”
Isn’t kneeling 'traditional"? Or do you consider such a thing 'dead faith"?We no longer stand to receive communion and there are some priests that have said it is a mortal sin to kneel while receiving and there are some priests that have removed the kneelers. You seem to be one that agrees with the removal of such a tradition.

Cardinal Ratzinger Spirit of the liturgy
There are groups, of no small influence, who are trying to talk us out of kneeling. “It doesn’t suit our culture”, they say (which culture?) “It’s not right for a grown man to do this – he should face God on his feet”. Or again: “It’s not appropriate for redeemed man – he has been set free by Christ and doesn’t need to kneel any more”.
Again, there is a story that comes from the sayings of the Desert Fathers, according to which the devil was compelled by God to show himself to a certain Abba Apollo. He looked black and ugly, with frighteningly thin limbs, but most strikingly, he had no knees. The inability to kneel is seen as the very essence of the diabolical.
It may well be that kneeling is alien to modern culture – insofar as it is a culture, **for this culture has turned away from the faith **and no longer knows the one before whom kneeling is the right, indeed the intrinsically necessary gesture. The man who learns to believe learns also to kneel, and a faith or a liturgy no longer familiar with kneeling would be sick at the core. Where it has been lost, kneeling must be rediscovered, so that, in our prayer, we remain in fellowship with the apostles and martyrs, in fellowship with the whole cosmos, indeed in union with Jesus Christ Himself."
 
If Michael Matt is anything like his elders and the The Remant anything like the Wanderer, these Traditionalists in Action are trying to preserve the Church like a dead butterfly on a pin, beautiful, but very dead.
 
If Michael Matt is anything like his elders and the The Remant anything like the Wanderer, these Traditionalists in Action are trying to preserve the Church like a dead butterfly on a pin, beautiful, but very dead.
:clapping: :tiphat: :bowdown2:
 
There was actually a great deal of religious tomfoolery in the Middle Ages. Examples include boy bishops on St. Nicholas’ feast day, the Feast of the *** (in which a donkey was taken into the sanctuary and the congregation would “hee haw” the responses), and the Feast of Fools. These practices, especially the Feast of Fools, got so out of hand that they eventually had to be stamped out by the authorities.

Also, I firmly believe that the culture (whichever one is being discussed) was never sane. Human history is not constant progress or constant regression. It’s more like a line dance in which human culture goes backwards, forwards, and to the side, sometimes all at once. In the late 19th century and early 20th century, it was common to see postcards that contained photos of lynch mobs grinning next to their unfortunate victims, who were in varying degrees of dismemberment. So much for a sane, Christian culture.
This is really excellent. What a great thought-provoking post with so much truth. Thank you.

Line dance–great analogy! We did some line dancing yesterday at my daughter’s wedding, and one of things that I couldn’t help but notice (ouch!) is that when one or more of got off the beat, we bumped into each other and stepped on each other’s feet. Kind of like history, right? Also, many of us didn’t know the exact pattern and steps, so we had to watch the leader, and sometimes we missed a few steps while we were learning. But the LEADER helped us get back on track as we watched her consistent dance. Kind of like the Pope, right?
 
We shouldn’t judge people who don’t smile much. Some people just have bad teeth and don’t like to show them.

Seriously, when I play the piano, I often scowl because I am concentrating. Singers used to stop during their rehearsals and ask if they were doing something wrong. I’ve made an effort to keep a friendlier looking face while playing, but it is an effort.

The most smiling face can mask a devil, and some of the most uninviting faces can mask a saint. There is a statue of Mother Cabrini in our Italian parish that–I swear!–looks just like the Emperor in the Star Wars movies!

So I think we need to make our assessments of people based on their life and actions rather than their appearances.
 
We shouldn’t judge people who don’t smile much. Some people just have bad teeth and don’t like to show them.

Seriously, when I play the piano, I often scowl because I am concentrating. Singers used to stop during their rehearsals and ask if they were doing something wrong. I’ve made an effort to keep a friendlier looking face while playing, but it is an effort.

The most smiling face can mask a devil, and some of the most uninviting faces can mask a saint. There is a statue of Mother Cabrini in our Italian parish that–I swear!–looks just like the Emperor in the Star Wars movies!

So I think we need to make our assessments of people based on their life and actions rather than their appearances.
Like used car salespeople? 😃
 
If Michael Matt is anything like his elders and the The Remant anything like the Wanderer, these Traditionalists in Action are trying to preserve the Church like a dead butterfly on a pin, beautiful, but very dead.
Once again-- discouragement.

The classical Roman Rite is most certainly alive and well at least in our diocese, and growing exponentially.

How much of it is due to these people, I don’t know.
 
http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/Images/D_001_Signers.jpg

Doesn’t their picture just make you want to run to their version of Catholicism?!? That’s before we even get to the trash found on their website.

Looking at this photo, I am reminded of St. Theresa’s invocation: “From silly devotions and sour-faced saints, deliver us, oh Lord!”
“…and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.”

I see no reason for such a posting, except in order to stir up animosity. A person’s looks has absolutely NOTHING to do with their interior dispositon. You should be ashamed of yourself. Besides, I think they look very nice, the woman in particular. Very modest and humble looking, all of them.
 
We shouldn’t judge people who don’t smile much. Some people just have bad teeth and don’t like to show them.

Seriously, when I play the piano, I often scowl because I am concentrating. Singers used to stop during their rehearsals and ask if they were doing something wrong. I’ve made an effort to keep a friendlier looking face while playing, but it is an effort.

The most smiling face can mask a devil, and some of the most uninviting faces can mask a saint. There is a statue of Mother Cabrini in our Italian parish that–I swear!–looks just like the Emperor in the Star Wars movies!

So I think we need to make our assessments of people based on their life and actions rather than their appearances.
Although in fact, Mother Cabrini was quite beautiful as well as holy.
I’m sorry your parish hasn’t portrayed her well in its statue of her.

Google to here for best-known picture.

fordham.edu/halsall/medny/mccabe1.jpg
 
Isn’t kneeling 'traditional"? Or do you consider such a thing 'dead faith"?We no longer stand to receive communion and there are some priests that have said it is a mortal sin to kneel while receiving and there are some priests that have removed the kneelers. You seem to be one that agrees with the removal of such a tradition.

Cardinal Ratzinger Spirit of the liturgy
There are groups, of no small influence, who are trying to talk us out of kneeling. “It doesn’t suit our culture”, they say (which culture?) “It’s not right for a grown man to do this – he should face God on his feet”. Or again: “It’s not appropriate for redeemed man – he has been set free by Christ and doesn’t need to kneel any more”.
Again, there is a story that comes from the sayings of the Desert Fathers, according to which the devil was compelled by God to show himself to a certain Abba Apollo. He looked black and ugly, with frighteningly thin limbs, but most strikingly, he had no knees. The inability to kneel is seen as the very essence of the diabolical.
It may well be that kneeling is alien to modern culture – insofar as it is a culture, **for this culture has turned away from the faith **and no longer knows the one before whom kneeling is the right, indeed the intrinsically necessary gesture. The man who learns to believe learns also to kneel, and a faith or a liturgy no longer familiar with kneeling would be sick at the core. Where it has been lost, kneeling must be rediscovered, so that, in our prayer, we remain in fellowship with the apostles and martyrs, in fellowship with the whole cosmos, indeed in union with Jesus Christ Himself."
With that being said, what about people who CAN’T kneel because of a temporary or permanent medical condition? Are they judged as being irreverent, disrespectful,a “Modernist”,
“Progressive”, “Liberal”, disobedient to the Pope, not following the GIRM, rubrics of the Mass, Church Councils, maybe they are putting their own personal statement in the Mass, or anything else legalistic, rigid, follow the black and white of the law types can think of.
 
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