Traditional Ash Wednesday?

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What is the Ash Wednesday ‘Rite’ (if there’s any) before Vatican 2? And what are the traditional practices related to Ash Wednesday?

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It is the same as today except that the admonition we got has changed. The original admonition was:

“Remember man that thou art dust and to dust thou shalt return”.

I believe that this is still an option but I have not heard this option since the late 60s.
 
“Turn away from sin and be faithful to the Gospel”, I think.
 
It is the same as today except that the admonition we got has changed. The original admonition was:

“Remember man that thou art dust and to dust thou shalt return”.

I believe that this is still an option but I have not heard this option since the late 60s.
The N.O. parish I attend uses this admonition.👍
 
In the Extraordinary Form the imposition of ashes takes place before Mass begins. The priest reads a collect or 2 then blesses the ashes with holy water and incense. Then the priest will impose ashes on those in the sanctuary and then the people kneeling at the altar rail. The priest will say to each penitent:
Memento homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
Remember man that you are dust and to dust you shall return
After everyone has recieved ashes (either by a cross on the forehead or sprinkled on the tonsure) the Mass will continue in the usual way.
 
We are attending the old Domican Rite for Ash Wednesday. I’ll post after we get back.
 
It is the same as today except that the admonition we got has changed. The original admonition was:

“Remember man that thou art dust and to dust thou shalt return”.

I believe that this is still an option but I have not heard this option since the late 60s.
This is what they used in the NO parish I attended last year.
 
This is what they used in the NO parish I attended last year.
I’m glad it is still being used but all we hear is the “Turn away from sin…”. Of course they took the old “Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust” out of the Requiem Mass too and changed black or at least purple vestments into white.
 
I’m glad it is still being used but all we hear is the “Turn away from sin…”. Of course they took the old “Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust” out of the Requiem Mass too and changed black or at least purple vestments into white.
It is strange that they pronounced the “Earth to earth” formulary since that has never formed part of the Church’s rite, but has long been a tradition in the Anglican Books of Common Prayer.
 
I will be serving our EF Mass on Ash Wednesday. There are prayers Fr. says to bless the ashes and they are sprinkled with holy water and incensed. After distributing the ashes saying Memento homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris, the priest washes his hands and puts on his maniple and chasible. Since the prayers at the foot of the altar are replaced with the blessing and distribution of ashes, Mass beings with the introit and continues as usual. There is also an extra prayer after the postcommunion prayer.
 
When the priest asked us to help with the Ash Wednesday, he told us to say " say penance and recieve the good news" while making the signe of the cross on the people’s forhead.
 
We attended a magnificent Dominican Rite Ash Wednesday and Missa Cantata. Cantores in Ecclesia was SUPER and the Mass was well attended. Fr. Anthony has done some great things at Holy Rosary in Portland, OR. His Masses are just wonderful
 
Am I right in presuming only Priests can distribute ashes?

How is this done, since usually the Ministers aren’t supposed to leave the sanctuary. Do the laity approach standing or do they kneel as for communion?
 
Am I right in presuming only Priests can distribute ashes?

How is this done, since usually the Ministers aren’t supposed to leave the sanctuary. Do the laity approach standing or do they kneel as for communion?
At an EF Mass, only priests distribute ashes (though a deacon could also, with permission). People receive them kneeling at the rail, as at communion.
 
During a Solemn High Ash Wednesday service, is there the asperges/sprinkling of holy water on the faithful? If so, is it before or after ashes are distributed? I was a bit confused at this when going over it in my missal.
 
During a Solemn High Ash Wednesday service, is there the asperges/sprinkling of holy water on the faithful? If so, is it before or after ashes are distributed? I was a bit confused at this when going over it in my missal.
Is there even such a thing as a Solemn High Ash Wednesday liturgy? It would seem to be out of phase with the penitential tone of the day.
 
Is there even such a thing as a Solemn High Ash Wednesday liturgy? It would seem to be out of phase with the penitential tone of the day.
Yes there is. See this Ash Wednesday Mass celebrated by Canon Moreau of the Institute of Christ the King.

But you bring up a good question. Are there special days where one is not allowed to have a high mass?
 
It is the same as today except that the admonition we got has changed. The original admonition was:

“Remember man that thou art dust and to dust thou shalt return”.

I believe that this is still an option but I have not heard this option since the late 60s.
That is what I’ve always heard, even when I’ve been in the so non-traditional they took out the kneelers parishes…
 
During a Solemn High Ash Wednesday service, is there the asperges/sprinkling of holy water on the faithful? If so, is it before or after ashes are distributed? I was a bit confused at this when going over it in my missal.
No, there is no Asperges except on Sundays. (Palm Sunday is the only Sunday I can think of off the top of my head when it is not sung.)

That said, part of the rite of blessing the ashes includes the priest’s saying the antiphon Asperges Me recto tono while sprinkling the ashes with holy water. This is not the ordinary Asperges rite in which the congregation is sprinkled, however.
But you bring up a good question. Are there special days where one is not allowed to have a high mass?
There is no day when a low Mass would be permitted but a high Mass forbidden, if that’s what you’re asking. The high Mass, with its sung propers, incense, and so on, is the normative form of the rite.
 
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