Traditional Bishops

[kerkganger]

As our current pope is a jesuit I was wondering if it was possible, theoretically and actually, for a priest of the FSSP or ICRSS or any other catholic group in full communion to become a bishop/cardinal/pope.

I was wondering this since it does not seem logical to me, because they could be placed on the other side of the world when the need arises, but that is also the case with the jesuits and they have given us a pope.

 

[L_Marshall]

It definitely is possible, although it’s not likely right now (both because of their traditional leaning, and because they’re both new orders). The closest we’ve got now seems to be Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke.

 

[bben15]

As stated, it is possible, but not likely. We might not even be sure if any FSSP or ICRSS priest would accept episcopal consecration, because if they did, they would have to offer the Ordinary Form. So, in short, unless the FSSP or ICRSS is granted the same status as Opus Dei, there probably won’t even be any FSSP or ICRSS bishops.

 

[TimothyH]

As our current pope is a jesuit I was wondering if it was possible, theoretically and actually, for a priest of the FSSP or ICRSS or any other catholic group in full communion to become a bishop/cardinal/pope.

I was wondering this since it does not seem logical to me, because they could be placed on the other side of the world when the need arises, but that is also the case with the jesuits and they have given us a pope.

There are members of Catholic groups in full communion with the Church who are Bishops. The Bishop of Savannah Georgia is Franciscan.

There have been many Franciscan, Benedictine, Carmelite and Jesuit bishops and cardinals and not a few Popes.

Pope Gregory XVI (1831 to 1846) was a Camaldolese (Benedictine monastic). He is considered pretty traditional(ist). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Gregory_XVI

-Tim-

 

[JReducation]

As our current pope is a jesuit I was wondering if it was possible, theoretically and actually, for a priest of the FSSP or ICRSS or any other catholic group in full communion to become a bishop/cardinal/pope.

I was wondering this since it does not seem logical to me, because they could be placed on the other side of the world when the need arises, but that is also the case with the jesuits and they have given us a pope.

It definitely is possible, although it’s not likely right now (both because of their traditional leaning, and because they’re both new orders). The closest we’ve got now seems to be Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke.

It is actually much easier for a priest from either of these societies to accept episcopal ordination, because neither group is an order. These are secular priests, like your diocesan priests. They are not consecrated men. They do not make a vowed covenant with their respective institutes. Canon Law treats them as it would diocesan priests.

When a Franciscan, Jesuit, Dominican, etc is offered episcopal ordination, it is with the understanding that he remains a full member of his order and that where he goes so does the discipline and spirit of his order. That’s why you have a Jesuit spirit in the Vatican, a Franciscan spirit in Boston, Savannah and Philadelphia and a Dominican spirit in Ecclesia Dei These men are not allowed to leave their charism behind. They are dispensed from the authority of their major superior, but not from their vows or from their way of life. Those go with them. They have a covenant with the Church to live and function according to the charism of their order.

If a Maryknoll, Vincentian, FSSP, ICRSS, or Holy Cross (Opus Dei) are ordained bishops, they cease to belong to the society, because they do not have vows that tie them to the society, just like a diocesan priest ceases to belong to his diocese.

 

[otjm]

I may be incorrect in my rcollection, but it seems to me that several years ago an issue came up about sopme of the FSSP priests wanting to say the OF; they were told they could not, and Rome intervened and said they could not be restricted from saying it. If that is indeed correct, then the primary focus of the FSSP would be the EF, but not to the point of having nothing to do with the OF.

 

[Chatter163]

I may be incorrect in my rcollection, but it seems to me that several years ago an issue came up about sopme of the FSSP priests wanting to say the OF; they were told they could not, and Rome intervened and said they could not be restricted from saying it. If that is indeed correct, then the primary focus of the FSSP would be the EF, but not to the point of having nothing to do with the OF.

You are correct. It was the infamous protocol 1499 affair.