Traditional Catholic Definition

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15 decade rosary
Latin Mass
Baltimore Catechism
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Brotherhrolf, you and others should not perpetuate the lie that the SSPX is ‘not in union’ with the Church. As the Society has been claiming for the last 20 years, and as is now openly admitted in Rome these days, the SSPX is an internal matter for the church. They are said to be in a state of imperfect communion, which is still a degree of ‘union’ with the church. Please refrain from this false accusation in the future. Thanks.
Again it shows that everyone has their own definition. Brotherhrolf is reflecting no lie, but rather an opinion held by, among others, your host here.

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“Novus Ordo” and especially “NO” are pejorative slurs at this point in history.
I really don’t think I have ever met anyone who uses “Novus Ordo” or “NO” that didn’t do so in a quietly demeaning way.
i usually use this term but not in a demeaning way. i have been going to the traditional latin mass since 2000 but have re-started to go to the OF mass. at the traditional mass, this term is the norm, and so it was here that i learnt to use it. probably yes, some people used it in a derogatory way, but i do not.
we still say ‘tridentine’ mass as i only started to hear the term ‘extraordinary form’ being used after summorum pontificum; the same goes for the ‘ordinary form’. i guess that my parish, with many being traditional, stuck to the old “novus ordo” instaed of goin with the OF 🙂 as traditionalists stick to traditional things

so, i will try to use OF, but it will take some getting usde to, but ill still say tridentine mass (if there isn’e a reason for me not doing so)

back o the topic
it seems that to be a traditional catholic, the main thing is going to an EF mass, since that seems to be the most talked about.

as the 1st part of what CassiusLonginus said, a ‘traditional’ catholic is one who practices the traditional faith (no blurring of right and wrong, no compromising with error or sin) - but this is what all catholics should do, otherwise they are not a catholic!

maybe before, i could be seen as a traditional catholic, but now i have adopted the new mass as well as the old, i say 20 decades (i didn’t for a long time but now i love the mysteries of light just as much as the traditional 15) etc, but i still see myself as traditional - maybe not. i still hold to al what the church teaches etc.
i am cautious when change arises, but at the same time, that is sometimes necessary or enriching.
someome commenting on another thread said mentioned that to be truly a traditionalist, one must go right back to the mass before what we know as the tridentine / EF mass…

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ok, pnewton…so are you saying that they are not in a state of imperfect communion but rather schism? Have you thought about what this would entail?
 
ok, pnewton…so are you saying that they are not in a state of imperfect communion but rather schism? Have you thought about what this would entail?
No, I linked someone else that said that in order to help you and others distinguish between a lie and an opinion.
 
“Novus Ordo” and especially “NO” are pejorative slurs at this point in history. The Church certainly doesn’t commonly refer to the Mass of Paul XI as either the “Novus Ordo” or the “NO” Mass. I think if one did some digging one could unearth 1-2 official documents in total that used “Novus Ordo” and that’s it.

I really don’t think I have ever met anyone who uses “Novus Ordo” or “NO” that didn’t do so in a quietly demeaning way. Someone who otherwise made it clear they had personal problems with the OF. Using either “Novus Ordo” or “NO” typically says something very specific about the user – and it’s not positive.
This is just plain false. I’ve heard more than one priest call it the Novus Ordo to more easily distinguish it from the Latin Mass. And it was in no way “demeaning”. Frankly, I find your assertion very offensive. Without realizing, you just slurred a very loving, Holy Priest I know with your blanket statement. And yes, he celebrates the OF.
 
Frankly, I find your assertion very offensive. Without realizing, you just slurred a very loving, Holy Priest I know with your blanket statement. And yes, he celebrates the OF.
The you take offense way to easily and wrongly accuse this one of a slur. The context of “user” here is referring to posters here, not some priest who this man has never met. It is unjust to judge him and his experience by a priest you know. I have noticed the same trend he noted, though I would not make it an absolute.
 
The you take offense way to easily and wrongly accuse this one of a slur. The context of “user” here is referring to posters here, not some priest who this man has never met. It is unjust to judge him and his experience by a priest you know. I have noticed the same trend he noted, though I would not make it an absolute.
He said, “Using either “Novus Ordo” or “NO” typically says something very specific about the user – and it’s not positive.”
I took it as user of the term in general. Not CAF user.
This is what I took offense to.
Perhaps I was a bit harsh to which I apologize.
 
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