Traditional Celebration of St. Patrick's Day

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St Patrick’s Day. Do not get me wrong I like a drink as much as the next man but I refuse to participate in the drunken, wild party that the plastic paddies have made it in to here in the States. Tomorrow I will wear a suit, go to mass if I am able, and have ONE drink to toast and honour specific people. Any other Irishmen out there wish to join in the revolution? 😃

Pax Vobiscum

Beannachtai na Feile Padraig!
 
IrishDude, you’ve got one right here! Green beer sickens me to no end, the good St. Patrick must look down on us in shame most 17th’s of March. It’s high time we Irishmen make him proud. Mass, prayer, family and a pint in remembrance sounds good to me!

Ni ceart go cur le cheile
 
St Patrick’s Day. Do not get me wrong I like a drink as much as the next man but I refuse to participate in the drunken, wild party that the plastic paddies have made it in to here in the States. Tomorrow I will wear a suit, go to mass if I am able, and have ONE drink to toast and honour specific people. Any other Irishmen out there wish to join in the revolution? 😃

Pax Vobiscum

Beannachtai na Feile Padraig!
Sounds good to me! I wasn’t going to wear a suit, but then again I’m a woman. Naturally I would wear something appropriate to Mass. Green mantilla, anyone?

I’ve actually been looking to purchase a shirt with St. Patrick himself on it. I figure with all the gimmicky stupid things people have on their shirts on St. Patrick’s day an homage to him would be nice. Unfortunately, all I have found is “St. Patrick is my Homeboy.” I hate those homeboy shirts. It is St. Patrick’s day morning, so really the only option I am left with is iron-on transfer. I don’t think It will happen this year. I should keep it in mind for the next.

As for St. Patrick’s day plans I’m going to a paleontology lecture at the Houston Museum of Natural Science (probably, if my ride doesn’t fall through.) It’s not saintly, Patricky or Irish, but it seems cool to me. Afterward we’ll try to find a pub downtown with some good Irish music. I cannot promise a one drink for the night. Two, with a meal between sounds more likely. It’s a long way from idiotic drunkenness. Still, your one drink toast seems more classy! 🙂
 
found some, oh well, next year
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It does bother me, some of the other merchandise these sites sell alongside the saint shirts though. Good thing I have aother year to find someone that I would want to buy from.

Tshirt + sweater + skirt + veil = St. Patrick’s day Mass attire
Tshirt + sweater + skirt + ridiculous shamrock stockings I should be ashamed to have = St. Patrick’s day, day/night attire
 
The real question is where I can find a pint of Murphy’s here around St. Louis. 😉

The gimmicky green beer, corned beef and cabbage, and the lot makes a mockery of our beloved Saint. It’s just like what has been done to St. Valentine’s Day, Christmas, Easter, All Saint’s Day, and the rest of them. :banghead:

By the way:

:irish1: :irish2: ☘️ :irish3: :shamrock2: :kissme:

Kiss me, I am Irish… at least on my mother’s side: Fermoy, County Cork. My wife and I also went there in 2002. They thought she was the Irish one. Her family is English and more precisely descended from the Roundheads!
 
The real question is where I can find a pint of Murphy’s here around St. Louis. 😉

The gimmicky green beer, corned beef and cabbage, and the lot makes a mockery of our beloved Saint.
Murphy’s is good, but I didn’t find it any more special than other Irish stouts. I realize that is an unpopular thing to say in some parts. (To clarify I do love stouts)

Our parish priest went as far as to say that drinking green beer is a sin, last Sunday. Ok funny joke, green beer is stupid, but you can’t just say that during Mass when you’re a priest. Especially someone who rarely does give homilies on sin. 😦
 
Having had Murphy’s and Guinness at the pub in Fermoy, I can categorically state that Murphy’s is superior to Guinness.

It was funny, we stayed the night in Killorglin in County Kerry the next night. I went to another pub and ordered a Murphy’s and the barmaid flat out told me “There is no Murphy’s in County Kerry!” 😛
 
My husband is from England, and the English and the Irish don’t have the most stellar history between them. So we don’t do a lot of jumping up and down and “acting Irish”, wearing lots of green and whatnot here at our house. :cool: I’m not Irish at all either so it’s just not a big deal for us.

But to make everyone happy and play along, I’ll put on a big green smilie for ya! 😃

~Liza
 
Having had Murphy’s and Guinness at the pub in Fermoy, I can categorically state that Murphy’s is superior to Guinness.

It was funny, we stayed the night in Killorglin in County Kerry the next night. I went to another pub and ordered a Murphy’s and the barmaid flat out told me “There is no Murphy’s in County Kerry!” 😛
I’ve only ever had Murphy’s at a pub in Killarney at the insistence of the bartender that I also try both to prove Murphy’s is the best. I’d say they were somewhat different from each other, but not in a way that would lend itself to definite superiority.

While in Killarney, I went to a Corr’s concert. Sheryl Crow was the opening act and nobody knew who she was. She sang some war protest song that the crowd could care less about and I thought it was pretty funny. The first thing she said was I’m glad to be here and I’ve had a pint of Guinness. I guess she thought that would impress them, but really why would it?
 
I used to live where Ms. Crow was born and lived her early life. Needless to say, I’m not impressed by her. I still say Murphy’s is better!:nunchuk:
 
Being only 1/8 Irish I will defer today to my wife, who is 1/2 Irish. We will do the corned beef and cabbage thing because that is a tradition in her family (as are the kids complaining about the smell of cooking cabbage). Luckily, we will be able to attend Mass tonight (we are ending 40 hours).

I grew up in NYC and St. Pat’s has always meant a parade with cops and firemen and drunks. Does anyone know why/how this feast became an excuse for being drunk and stupid?
 
It’s an American thing, it’s what we as Americans are good at. We used to be good at building skyscrapers and cars, but we forgot how to do those things.
 
I’ll be off to Mass in an hour. I meant to go this morning but overslept (day off uni) so I’m going this evening. I’m trying to go to Mass more during lent (and beyond, hopefully). We don’t usually have an evening Mass on Tuesdays but as our parish priest is from Cork he says an evening Mass every St. Patrick’s day. But on St. George’s day he is also good enough to say an extra Mass for us english. 😛
 
St Patrick’s Day. Do not get me wrong I like a drink as much as the next man but I refuse to participate in the drunken, wild party that the plastic paddies have made it in to here in the States. Tomorrow I will wear a suit, go to mass if I am able, and have ONE drink to toast and honour specific people. Any other Irishmen out there wish to join in the revolution? 😃

Pax Vobiscum

Beannachtai na Feile Padraig!
Like Christmas, most modern day Roman Catholics really don’t understand what the Feast Day is and what is the true meaning behind it. It just means party time!!. And they think that partying is the most important part!. My brother, is a good example, because come Christmas he wants to go to Mass early on Christmas Eve so he can get that part over and start the festal season, in other words “Drink and Party”. That’s the most important part of a Holiday or Feastday to him. I really threw a left curve at him when two years ago I went to an Orthodox Divine Liturgy for Christmas Vigil (10:30pm). He went to Mass on his own. I guess he felt that I didn’t want to party on Christmas Eve. This same idea relates to this Feast Day. Take the Guinness and parties away, and learn the true meaning of St Patrick’s Day along with who St Patrick really was.
 
Saint Patrick, the Enlightener of Ireland was born around 385, the son of Calpurnius, a Roman decurion (an official responsible for collecting taxes). He lived in the village of Bannavem Taberniae, which may have been located at the mouth of the Severn River in Wales. The district was raided by pirates when Patrick was sixteen, and he was one of those taken captive. He was brought to Ireland and sold as a slave, and was put to work as a herder of swine on a mountain identified with Slemish in Co. Antrim. During his period of slavery, Patrick acquired a proficiency in the Irish language which was very useful to him in his later mission.

He prayed during his solitude on the mountain, and lived this way for six years. He had two visions. The first told him he would return to his home. The second told him his ship was ready. Setting off on foot, Patrick walked two hundred miles to the coast. There he succeeded in boarding a ship, and returned to his parents in Britain.

Some time later, he went to Gaul and studied for the priesthood at Auxerre under St Germanus (July 31). Eventually, he was consecrated as a bishop, and was entrusted with the mission to Ireland, succeeding St Palladius (July 7). St Palladius did not achieve much success in Ireland. After about a year he went to Scotland, where he died in 432.

Patrick had a dream in which an angel came to him bearing many letters. Selecting one inscribed “The Voice of the Irish,” he heard the Irish entreating him to come back to them.

Although St Patrick achieved remarkable results in spreading the Gospel, he was not the first or only missionary in Ireland. He arrived around 432 (though this date is disputed), about a year after St Palladius began his mission to Ireland. There were also other missionaries who were active on the southeast coast, but it was St Patrick who had the greatest influence and success in preaching the Gospel of Christ. Therefore, he is known as “The Enlightener of Ireland.”

His autobiographical Confession tells of the many trials and disappointments he endured. Patrick had once confided to a friend that he was troubled by a certain sin he had committed before he was fifteen years old. The friend assured him of God’s mercy, and even supported Patrick’s nomination as bishop. Later, he turned against him and revealed what Patrick had told him in an attempt to prevent his consecration. Many years later, Patrick still grieved for his dear friend who had publicly shamed him.

St Patrick founded many churches and monasteries across Ireland, but the conversion of the Irish people was no easy task. There was much hostility, and he was assaulted several times. He faced danger, and insults, and he was reproached for being a foreigner and a former slave. There was also a very real possibility that the pagans would try to kill him. Despite many obstacles, he remained faithful to his calling, and he baptized many people into Christ.

The saint’s Epistle to Coroticus is also an authentic work. In it he denounces the attack of Coroticus’ men on one of his congregations. The Breastplate (Lorica) is also attributed to St Patrick. In his writings, we can see St Patrick’s awareness that he had been called by God, as well as his determination and modesty in undertaking his missionary work. He refers to himself as “a sinner,” “the most ignorant and of least account,” and as someone who was “despised by many.” He ascribes his success to God, rather than to his own talents: “I owe it to God’s grace that through me so many people should be born again to Him.”

By the time he established his episcopal See in Armargh in 444, St Patrick had other bishops to assist him, many native priests and deacons, and he encouraged the growth of monasticism.

St Patrick is often depicted holding a shamrock, or with snakes fleeing from him. He used the shamrock to illustrate the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. Its three leaves growing out of a single stem helped him to explain the concept of one God in three Persons. Many people now regard the story of St Patrick driving all the snakes out of Ireland as having no historical basis.

St Patrick died on March 17, 461 (some say 492). There are various accounts of his last days, but they are mostly legendary. Muirchu says that no one knows the place where St Patrick is buried. St Columba of Iona (June 9) says that the Holy Spirit revealed to him that Patrick was buried at Saul, the site of his first church. A granite slab was placed at his traditional grave site in Downpatrick in 1899.

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St Patrick’s Day. Do not get me wrong I like a drink as much as the next man but I refuse to participate in the drunken, wild party that the plastic paddies have made it in to here in the States. Tomorrow I will wear a suit, go to mass if I am able, and have ONE drink to toast and honour specific people. Any other Irishmen out there wish to join in the revolution? 😃

Pax Vobiscum

Beannachtai na Feile Padraig!
I’m with you, IrishDude! I don’t drink myself, but I can’t stand the stuff that passes for ‘celebrations’ on St. Patrick’s Day-people getting plastered and all-sheesh.

My late father was 100% Irish-American, and his birthday was on St. Patrick’s Day. We had a low-key party for him, the centerpiece was a cake with green candles and frosting, and a small ‘made in Japan’ :eek: porcelain leprechaun sitting on top of it. (we called it our 'Japanese leprechaun) A year or two before he died of Alzheimer’s disease and liver cancer, we had some pictures taken of him wearing a cardigan sweater and an Irish newsboy’s peaked cap for his birthday. My English/Polish brother-in-law was cracking me and my twin sister up with his running jokes, and the pictures showed it, with my father just sitting at the kitchen table gazing at the camera.

I’d like to see St. Patrick’s Day go back to its more sober and spiritual roots, and stop all the drunken nonsense.

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Bkovacs,

That is the story I’m used to hearing, Saint Patrick as a Romanized Britton, later a slave etc, etc.

Is there not some controversy over whether he was just one man? I have heard of a 2 Patrick’s theory that I’ll admit I do not buy into or care for. Supposedly there were two Missionaries with the same name working in Ireland at similar times and they have been blended into one person by popular history. Does anyone know if church historians have looked into this 2 Patrick theory or if it is just secular ones?
 
It’s best to follow the traditional story of St Patrick and have faith vs conflicting stories, where is his burial place, etcc. Pretty soon St Patrick will mean nothing to you, because you will be confused. Stick with tradition!.
 
It’s best to follow the traditional story of St Patrick and have faith vs conflicting stories, where is his burial place, etcc. Pretty soon St Patrick will mean nothing to you, because you will be confused. Stick with tradition!.
Oh, no he means a lot to me. I don’t think it would make him any less great if some of the things he did were actually done by another Saintly Patrick. It would just mean we have two great Patrick’s. I don’t believe the two Patrick theory, I just have heard it a few places. I don’t think it would be harmful at all if it turned out there were two, just a bit unnecessary at this point.
 
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