Keep in mind that the Church is international, transnational, and–ultimately–
‘meta’-national, to sound pretentious. It transcends nations, and the concerns of nations generally run counter to its spirit: consider only the following, that if Americans need or require the reduction of illegal immigration, why do we not secure our borders? Simply put, America doesn’t have the will or the spirit to control its borders, and the laws were probably made simply to placate nativists.
Catholic should support Catholic–render to Caesar what is Caesar’s can’t justify what’s happening in Arizona.
Don’t think for a minute I don’t have sympathy for the illegal alien, because I do I have worked with them. Most of them want just a better life for their family and work extremely hard. But the fact is they’re not American citizens. Dont get me wrong its not like I’d report them to to INS but I’m also not going to get involved with this “comprehensive immigration reform.” And another thing to remember is that hispanics are leaving the Church in numbers that correlate to whites- in particular for pentecostalism. I wonder what your opinion is of illegal immigration in europe from the muslims? Do you have the same approach?
you also said America doesn’t have the will or the spirit to control its borders, and the laws were probably made simply to placate nativists. I suggest reading up on warnings from another traditionalist Catholic- Patrick J. Buchanan who warned of this for decades and nobody listened to him. That lack of willpower you are referring to is not coming from the American people- poll after poll reflect American’s dissaproval of illegal immigration. The real lack of willpower comes from Corporate America who for the almighty dollar will exploit these poor people for slave wages, while simultaneously shafting the American workforce.
Given that–as I have just said in no uncertain terms–I am
pro-Catholic identity and not
pro-illegal immigration clearly my reaction to the influx of Mohammadans is extreme repulsion, when not tempered by the thought that these people too can come over to the Lord.
And you wonder why Hispanics leave the faith in such tremendous numbers–it is because fellow believers will not stick out their necks for them, not even their own clergy in some cases.
If you think that the only people who should shoulder the blame for America’s little immigration problem are the timeless-but-vague ‘greedy corporate fat cats,’ you are mistaken. The average American is afraid of holding firm positions on immigration, because they are uncool, remote to most of our lives, and difficult to provide a concise justification for without sounding like a racist kook. If Americans wanted these things changed, they could get out in the streets to protest, start political parties, and ‘vote with their dollar.’
Also, many of the employers of immigrants are small businesses and contractors–surprise, surprise, the great and infallible middle class is also culpable!
If you think its bad now, have a look at the anti-immigration scene in Britain.
At any rate, I’ve read Pat Buchanan, and I agree with him–American-ness and our unique way of life will be lost, and immigration is partly responsible. But there are other things to ask, namely:
-If the American spirit is so unique, won’t it demonstrate this by defending itself against dilution by immigration? So far it hasn’t, and America looks tired.
-Which is more important, the Catholic world or the American world? So far Hispanics have helped build and support the Church to a nearly unrivaled extent. Perhaps we could learn a thing or two from these people.
-Finally, the real source of this headache was the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1956–if you want to save American values, good luck building a time machine and opposing this.
Ultimately, you’re going to have to choose whether you support the Church at all costs or America at all costs.
Perfectly in communion with the Church, very traditional, they have the Latin Mass… great parishes overall:thumbsup: