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What would be some traditional odor of incense in the thurible? I’m writing a novel and I need to know. A friend says Myrrh, and says it smells sweet and musty. Can people get out their description caps and help me with this?

Thank you.

Sara
 
Incense is rarely any one single thing. It is usually, rather, a blend of various resins and barks, so the aroma (a much better word than “odor”) of incense can and does vary widely from blend to blend.

As for myrhh, my experience says that it has a slightly bitter aroma in it’s pure form. Pure frankincense, OTOH, tends to have a sweeter aroma.

Your best bet would probably be to buy a few different blends and try them yourself, so you casn make your own determination. One person’s nose and description of an aroma can be very different from that of another.
 
Well, a church supply catalog I happen to have in front of me describes Will & Baumer brand Pontifical Incense as “That traditional aroma we all grew up with…” A little investigation reveals that the particular incense is made from frankincense and cedar shavings.

A quick browse through some of these catalogs reveals that frankincense is far more popular than myrrh in liturgical incenses. I’d agree with malphono above me and stick to the pure frankincense or primarily frankincense blends if you’re going to try out several different ones.

Good luck!
 
just go to mass in a few catholic churches and take a sniff.
if you like it ask them which one they use.
 
I sometimes burn incense at home. I put some granules of a new one into my censor one day and BAM - my bedroom smelled exactly like Church. It was Frankincense, so I know my parish uses Frankincense more than anything else. It’s the ‘traditional’ smell to me 😛
 
What would be some traditional odor of incense in the thurible? I’m writing a novel and I need to know. A friend says Myrrh, and says it smells sweet and musty. Can people get out their description caps and help me with this?

Thank you.

Sara
Sara,
Since you’re asking for purposes of writing a novel, and not liturgical purposes, you could use any scent you choose. Even liturgically, the incense makes no difference. Myrrh is usually associated with funerals. Frankincense is the “original” incense. Most varieties will use frankincense as a base and add scents to it.

Here’s my suggestion. Depending upon the situation in your novel, use whatever scent you think would work with the rest of the story-line.

If you want the character to use a “traditional incense” because that complements the story, then use Frankincense. If you want to add an element of death to the story, use myrrh. You wouldn’t want myrrh if the occasion is a festive one because the imagery would clash. If you want an air of secrecy, use rose scent.

Maybe you could ask “if I had a vase of flowers in that scene, what kind of flowers would they be?” As the author, you could make the incense smell anyway you want it to. I assume you’re not writing one of those scratch-and-sniff books, right?

What sort of mental image are trying to create by naming the type of incense used? If you’re willing to share that with us (without spoiling the novel!) we might be able to offer some suggestions.
 
What would be some traditional odor of incense in the thurible? I’m writing a novel and I need to know. A friend says Myrrh, and says it smells sweet and musty. Can people get out their description caps and help me with this?

Thank you.

Sara
Why not go to a Mass that uses incense and experience it yourself?
 
What would be some traditional odor of incense in the thurible? I’m writing a novel and I need to know. A friend says Myrrh, and says it smells sweet and musty. Can people get out their description caps and help me with this?

Thank you.

Sara
Sara,
Re-reading your post, I think I see what you’re getting at. If I do, it seems like you’re looking for some adjectives to describe for your readers what incence smells like, right?

If so, the problem is that unless one is using pure frankincense tears, incense can be made to smell like just about anything. It’s like asking “what words can I use to describe a woman’s perfume?” Even pure frankincense comes in so many different varieties that there is no single way to describe it. For millenia, people have been adding oils, perfumes, spices, fruit extracts, flowers, and just about anything else pleasant smelling to the frankincense to give it some added scent. It really can smell like just about anything.

There is no “standard” or “traditional” scent of incense. It just doesn’t exist. It’s like asking someone to “please describe what a scented candle would smell like” I’d be happy to, but first, you’d have to tell me the name of the candle.

I’ve known people to describe pure frankincense with any of the following descriptions:

sweet
bitter
citrus
almond
slight hint of cinnamon
piney (usually means poor quality if you ask me)
syrupy (as in pancake syrup)
burning baby powder (talcum is often used to keep the grains from sticking together)
I’ve even heard one person say “that one smells like pot”

Some words that would work:
pungent, tangy, woodsy, earthy, spicy

Add some scented oil to that, and it could smell like just about anything in the entire flora kingdom.

On the other hand, if you give us an idea of the kind of atmosphere that you want to create for the particular event happening in the novel, people here who are “familiar” with incense can give you some suggestions on words which might work, and others which won’t. You can have an incense that smells like citrus, rose, jasmine, cinnamon, pine (gag), gardenia (my favorite), lavender, lilac, cedar, musk, clove…we could go on and on. It’s up to you, the idea you want to convey to your reader.

I think I can speak for everyone in saying that we’d be more than happy to help by offering some descriptive words, but you’ll have to give us a little more to go on first.
 
Dear David,

What a terrific question.

This is for a section about 100 years of religion in the house, which is in a neighborhood that starts wealthy white and becomes wealthy black and then those “other” black people move in (as some of our neighbors from our old neighborhood spoke of them) and Hispanics, etc.

The first mistress of the house which is built in 1903, is raised Catholic and leaves it behind with a secret from her past (“sells her soul and for little cost, she believes.”) but her Catholicism permeates her life like incense (and here I want a smell that invokes mystery and loss. Musty and sweet? something like that. )

Thank you all for your help.:juggle
Sara

ps. My son really likes your little face guys but we couldn’t make them work from our computer.
Sara,
Since you’re asking for purposes of writing a novel, and not liturgical purposes, you could use any scent you choose. Even liturgically, the incense makes no difference. Myrrh is usually associated with funerals. Frankincense is the “original” incense. Most varieties will use frankincense as a base and add scents to it.

Here’s my suggestion. Depending upon the situation in your novel, use whatever scent you think would work with the rest of the story-line.

If you want the character to use a “traditional incense” because that complements the story, then use Frankincense. If you want to add an element of death to the story, use myrrh. You wouldn’t want myrrh if the occasion is a festive one because the imagery would clash. If you want an air of secrecy, use rose scent.

Maybe you could ask “if I had a vase of flowers in that scene, what kind of flowers would they be?” As the author, you could make the incense smell anyway you want it to. I assume you’re not writing one of those scratch-and-sniff books, right?

What sort of mental image are trying to create by naming the type of incense used? If you’re willing to share that with us (without spoiling the novel!) we might be able to offer some suggestions.
 
OK. Let’s see if I have this right. It’s a lingering scent, “leftover” from the past right?

You want “mystery and loss” Old-fashioned rose might do the trick. Rose can smell both nostalgic (loss) and spicy (mysterious). The flower itself implies secrecy, romance (red), and wealth (yellow), even remorse (white). The nice thing about using rose-scented incense is that you can legitimately make the scent indicative of almost any emotion you want it to be. Since rose is a very common scent to use for incense, it makes the idea that someone would be using it very probable and believable.

The rest of this post is just my own ramblings:

Descriptions of incense can be a little “fluid.” Incense will smell differently to different people, and also can change depending on the environment. Let’s say we’re burning pure frankincense. If the smoke is heavy, it might have a lemon-citrus scent. If it’s light smoke, it might be more like burning applewood–smoky, but with faint undertones of something sweet. Rose scented might come across as spicy when it’s light but if it’s heavy, the old rose scent is unmistakeable. Myrrh can smell both bitter and sweet at the same time. Not bittersweet, but more of two at the same time rather than two blended into one.

Here’s some symbolism that might be associated with certain emotions:

Myrrh: funereal “myrrh is mine, this bitter perfume, breathes the life of gathering gloom, sorrowing sighing bleeding dying, sealed in a stone cold tomb” that one’s pretty obvious. It can also have an “oily” smell. It was used primarily to anoint bodies for burial. I think it often has a slightly lemon-spice-oil scent to it. Myrrh might smell oily in the sense of a fine, freshly oiled quality leather, or it might be oily in the sense of a fry pan left on the stove too long that begins to burn.

Pure frankincense can also have all of those scent characteristics, but without the connotations of the word “myrrh” which unmistakably symbolizes death.

Rose: invokes a sense of secrecy or mystery. “Sub rosa” means “in secret” because the ancient Romans when they gathered for a secret meeting used to hang a rose over their heads as a symbol for secrecy. Break the secrecy, and you’ll find yoursel at the bottom of the Tiber in a pair of cement sandals. It could also mean luxury, or even remorse.

Lilly: another scent associated with funerals and death

Lemon or other citrus: might invoke images of childhood innocense or a pleasant, carefree existance. I’m thinking lemonade here. This is just my own thoughts.

Lavendar: this is often considered an “old fashioned” scent. It could evoke images of a time gone by, an old-fashioned garden. Smell lavendar and you’re back in the old days sitting on grandma’s porch.

Spicy, like ginger or cinnamon: intrigue, excitement, adventure, exotic

Cedar: long-lasting, preserving, could evoke thoughts of Solomons temple or a rich Jerusalem merchant.

Jasmine: makes one think of the “old south” and that could have either a very positive or very negative meaning (and might fit with your story line). It could either mean “Gone with the Wind” or “Birth of a Nation”

Musty: I’d recommend staying away from this adjective because incense is dry, and your readers might have a hard time associating a burning object with a wet smell. People who know incense can recognize it, but most readers would probably find it a little “disconnected”

Something I’m getting at here is that you could have the scent “change” depending on the situation. Now, here, I’m imagining that your characters will be smelling the lingering incense over a long period of time, like decades???

Without over-doing it, you might have your characters recognizing the lemon-spice-oil scent when they first smell it as myrrh, then have the lemon be the predominant tone when the children are in the house, but later, the unpleasant burnt-oil when the situation is gloomy. I’m only suggesting this because it seems like the theme of “change” is central to your story-line. If that sort of thing works, pure frankincense would be a good choice because it can have so many different scents, all competing with each other, and the many scents predominating at different times. It could smell like lavendar when the whites are there, jasmine when the blacks are there, and spicy when the hispanics are there (yes, I know those are cliches, so please don’t read too much into that). The frankincense might have that rich leather smell when the woman is being faithful, but then have the burning frypan smell when she makes her deal with the devil.

Ok. Pardon me, but I’m just having a little fun here and hope you don’t mind my ramblings.

Of course, I’m merely speculating on what you might be doing here with your story. My thoughts might be completely off-base if you want to have a scent that never changes but is consistent throughout the whole of the story.
 
Dear David and whomever wrote this one about Frankinscense:

sweet
bitter
citrus
almond
slight hint of cinnamon
piney (usually means poor quality if you ask me)
syrupy (as in pancake syrup)
burning baby powder (talcum is often used to keep the grains from sticking together)
I’ve even heard one person say “that one smells like pot”

Some words that would work:
pungent, tangy, woodsy, earthy, spicy

You have a novelist imagination, which makes you the perfect kind of people to ask this kind of question. You have been exceedingly helpful.

So far, my only mention of incense is a one-time thing quite early in the novel, before we learn about what is hidden in this woman’s past and why she might flee it and what she loses and gains by doing so. Given that the choice also wasn’t completely made by her, but by family when she was about 12, I would probably go with (close my eyes and point) musty or smokey, bitter, sweet for my adjectives. I think I will have extremely smart readers who can understand that the smoke itself would smell musty. you guys would all understand it, right?

I will keep all these notes and may ask you other questions later. Thank you again for all your help. You have saved me so much time and I have so little time to write, I am exceedingly grateful.

Sara
OK. Let’s see if I have this right. It’s a lingering scent, “leftover” from the past right?

You want “mystery and loss” Old-fashioned rose might do the trick. Rose can smell both nostalgic (loss) and spicy (mysterious). The flower itself implies secrecy, romance (red), and wealth (yellow), even remorse (white). The nice thing about using rose-scented incense is that you can legitimately make the scent indicative of almost any emotion you want it to be. Since rose is a very common scent to use for incense, it makes the idea that someone would be using it very probable and believable.

The rest of this post is just my own ramblings:

Descriptions of incense can be a little “fluid.” Incense will smell differently to different people, and also can change depending on the environment. Let’s say we’re burning pure frankincense. If the smoke is heavy, it might have a lemon-citrus scent. If it’s light smoke, it might be more like burning applewood–smoky, but with faint undertones of something sweet. Rose scented might come across as spicy when it’s light but if it’s heavy, the old rose scent is unmistakeable. Myrrh can smell both bitter and sweet at the same time. Not bittersweet, but more of two at the same time rather than two blended into one.

Here’s some symbolism that might be associated with certain emotions:

Myrrh: funereal “myrrh is mine, this bitter perfume, breathes the life of gathering gloom, sorrowing sighing bleeding dying, sealed in a stone cold tomb” that one’s pretty obvious. It can also have an “oily” smell. It was used primarily to anoint bodies for burial. I think it often has a slightly lemon-spice-oil scent to it. Myrrh might smell oily in the sense of a fine, freshly oiled quality leather, or it might be oily in the sense of a fry pan left on the stove too long that begins to burn.

Pure frankincense can also have all of those scent characteristics, but without the connotations of the word “myrrh” which unmistakably symbolizes death.

Rose: invokes a sense of secrecy or mystery. “Sub rosa” means “in secret” because the ancient Romans when they gathered for a secret meeting used to hang a rose over their heads as a symbol for secrecy. Break the secrecy, and you’ll find yoursel at the bottom of the Tiber in a pair of cement sandals. It could also mean luxury, or even remorse.

Lilly: another scent associated with funerals and death

Lemon or other citrus: might invoke images of childhood innocense or a pleasant, carefree existance. I’m thinking lemonade here. This is just my own thoughts.

Lavendar: this is often considered an “old fashioned” scent. It could evoke images of a time gone by, an old-fashioned garden. Smell lavendar and you’re back in the old days sitting on grandma’s porch.

Spicy, like ginger or cinnamon: intrigue, excitement, adventure, exotic

Cedar: long-lasting, preserving, could evoke thoughts of Solomons temple or a rich Jerusalem merchant.

Jasmine: makes one think of the “old south” and that could have either a very positive or very negative meaning (and might fit with your story line). It could either mean “Gone with the Wind” or “Birth of a Nation”

Musty: I’d recommend staying away from this adjective because incense is dry, and your readers might have a hard time associating a burning object with a wet smell. People who know incense can recognize it, but most readers would probably find it a little “disconnected”

Something I’m getting at here is that you could have the scent “change” depending on the situation. Now, here, I’m imagining that your characters will be smelling the lingering incense over a long period of time, like decades???

Without over-doing it, you might have your characters recognizing the lemon-spice-oil scent when they first smell it as myrrh, then have the lemon be the predominant tone when the children are in the house, but later, the unpleasant burnt-oil when the situation is gloomy. I’m only suggesting this because it seems like the theme of “change” is central to your story-line. If that sort of thing works, pure frankincense would be a good choice because it can have so many different scents, all competing with each other, and the many scents predominating at different times. It could smell like lavendar when the whites are there, jasmine when the blacks are there, and spicy when the hispanics are there (yes, I know those are cliches, so please don’t read too much into that). The frankincense might have that rich leather smell when the woman is being faithful, but then have the burning frypan smell when she makes her deal with the devil.

Ok. Pardon me, but I’m just having a little fun here and hope you don’t mind my ramblings.

Of course, I’m merely speculating on what you might be doing here with your story. My thoughts might be completely off-base if you want to have a scent that never changes but is consistent throughout the whole of the story.
 
Is sandalwood incense ever used in Catholic churches? My mother is a Buddhist and they use sandalwood incense in their worship. In my new parish I noticed that the incense they use smells very similar to that.
 
Is sandalwood incense ever used in Catholic churches? My mother is a Buddhist and they use sandalwood incense in their worship. In my new parish I noticed that the incense they use smells very similar to that.
Sure.

There are all kinds of versions of incense available, and I have seen sandalwood. Can’t say whether or not the similarity was intentional, though. It might have been marketed under any number of scent-names.

Remember that incense is a lot like ice cream. The base is frankincense tears, but almost any scent can be added.
 
Can anybody who regularly goes to Tridentien Mass advise what odour might be used at such Mass?
When I was at SSPX church, there was a strong,aromatic odour which automatically made me burn for Christ!
 
Can anybody who regularly goes to Tridentien Mass advise what odour might be used at such Mass?
When I was at SSPX church, there was a strong,aromatic odour which automatically made me burn for Christ!
most churches just use what is traditional. and some just pick what smells good. personally I like frankensence and myrrh.
 
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