Traditional Lay Movements

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There are tons of lay movements, but what are ones that could be described as or are affiliated with the traditionalist movement? It seems to me that most lay movements post Vatican II are of the Charismatic variety, which is not for me.

Br. JR, thoughts? I ask because you mention lay movements in the VII thread.

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YoungTradCath said:
There are tons of lay movements, but what are ones that could be described as or are affiliated with the traditionalist movement? It seems to me that most lay movements post Vatican II are of the Charismatic variety, which is not for me.

Br. JR, thoughts? I ask because you mention lay movements in the VII thread.

Please tell. (perhaps this can be a sticky if enough responses are made)
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I too would be very interested if anyone can provide any answers to this.

I do not feel very comfortable with charismatic movements as well. They always seem to be too emotion/experience driven.
 
Would this be of interest to you:

juventutem.org/pages/en/home/description.php

For people in the UK: juventutem.co.uk/

The webpage of the UK Group says:
Juventutem UK is part of the Juventutem International Federation, which is a Catholic network fostering the sanctification of young Catholic adults (18 – 35) worldwide according to the ‘traditional’ Roman rite of the liturgical and spiritual traditions in the form in which it was current in the Latin Church prior to the reform of 1969.
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The “Where we are” page indicates they have a chapter in the USA.
 
not sure what you mean by movement, but if you’re looking to join an organization that focuses on evangalization and devotion to Our Lady, the Legion of Mary is the best place to start (and finish). it has been described as the most effective lay organization by several Popes, but bear in mind membership isn’t suitable for those who aren’t willing to commit or to suffer for Our Lord.
 
The Neo-Catechumenate. I am not a member but I think they are not Charismatic.
 
Like most groups, it depends on your local area.
  • Legion of Mary.
  • Militia Immaculata.
  • Knights of Columbus.
  • Lay Dominicans.
  • Secular Franciscans.
They all could have traditionalist leanings, depending on the location and where/how the group meets.
 
YoungTradCath said:
There are tons of lay movements, but what are ones that could be described as or are affiliated with the traditionalist movement? It seems to me that most lay movements post Vatican II are of the Charismatic variety, which is not for me.

Br. JR, thoughts? I ask because you mention lay movements in the VII thread.

Please tell. (perhaps this can be a sticky if enough responses are made)
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What kinds of programs are you looking for? Legion of Mary and Knights of Columbus come instantly to mind as groups that have a long history and are still active throughout the US. The Society of the Holy Name is also active in many areas. Another group that does tremendous good work is St Vincent de Paul Society.

Are you looking more for a Third Order type of group? There are many of those active in the US as well - Dominican and Franciscan come instantly to mind. And of course, Opus Dei.
 
=YoungTradCath;10141757]There are tons of lay movements, but what are ones that could be described as or are affiliated with the traditionalist movement? It seems to me that most lay movements post Vatican II are of the Charismatic variety, which is not for me.
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Br. JR, thoughts? I ask because you mention lay movements in the VII thread.
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Please tell. (perhaps this can be a sticky if enough responses are made)
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Hi, I’m a member of such a group:🙂
mariancatechist.com/

It’s a Lay Apostolate founded by the late Father John A. Hardon S. J.; approved by Rome, and currently under the International Direction of His Emmenice Raymond Cardinal Leo Burke; who heads the Roman Curias ***Apostolic Signitura ***[High Court].

Continued Blessings,

pat/PJM

Our Charism is Teaching an d sharing our Catholic Faith.
 
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Like most groups, it depends on your local area.
  • Legion of Mary.
  • Militia Immaculata.
  • Knights of Columbus.
  • Lay Dominicans.
  • Secular Franciscans.
They all could have traditionalist leanings, depending on the location and where/how the group meets.
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I guess we can add Benedictine Oblates to the group. However they are attached to specific monasteries, not an order in general.

I would add though, that what should be sought is the charism of the group, not whether they celebrate their liturgy in this or that form.

The abbey I am affiliated with is very orthodox and even though Mass is in the OF and they use a post-Vatican II monastic breviary, they are otherwise seen as quite traditional as far as liturgy goes; Lauds, Vespers and the Mass are in Gregorian chant, the rest in French but with Latin hymns in Gregorian chant. Since there are no licit EF Masses near where I live, the abbey is a magnet for “traditionalists”.

But that said, I know now of two occasions where young postulants were turned away because they were there specifically because they were attracted to the perceived “traditionalism”, and not so much the charism.

Which is completely the wrong way around.

There are abbeys (Clear Creek in Oklahoma is one) that use the EF Office and pre-conciliar Monastic Divine Office (they are in fact in our congregation; it’s a fairly recent foundation), but again the main emphasis should be on Benedictine spirituality first. There’s also a new foundation in Italy, as well as Barroux and Fontgombault in France that I know of.
 
OraLabora said:
I guess we can add Benedictine Oblates to the group. However they are attached to specific monasteries, not an order in general.

I would add though, that what should be sought is the charism of the group, not whether they celebrate their liturgy in this or that form.

The abbey I am affiliated with is very orthodox and even though Mass is in the OF and they use a post-Vatican II monastic breviary, they are otherwise seen as quite traditional as far as liturgy goes; Lauds, Vespers and the Mass are in Gregorian chant, the rest in French but with Latin hymns in Gregorian chant. Since there are no licit EF Masses near where I live, the abbey is a magnet for “traditionalists”.

But that said, I know now of two occasions where young postulants were turned away because they were there specifically because they were attracted to the perceived “traditionalism”, and not so much the charism.

Which is completely the wrong way around.

There are abbeys (Clear Creek in Oklahoma is one) that use the EF Office and pre-conciliar Monastic Divine Office (they are in fact in our congregation; it’s a fairly recent foundation), but again the main emphasis should be on Benedictine spirituality first. There’s also a new foundation in Italy, as well as Barroux and Fontgombault in France that I know of.
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I believe Christ in the Desert also uses the EF for both the Mass and Office, though I am not sure that they have Oblates. The Abbey at Norica has distance Oblates and uses the EF for both the Mass and the Office. There are also some Benedictine Sisters and Nuns who have Oblates and use the EF.
 
Every parish is supposed to have a ‘Holy Name Society’.
 
PJM said:
Hi, I’m a member of such a group:🙂
mariancatechist.com/

It’s a Lay Apostolate founded by the late Father John A. Hardon S. J.; approved by Rome, and currently under the International Direction of His Emmenice Raymond Cardinal Leo Burke; who heads the Roman Curias ***Apostolic Signitura ***[High Court].

Continued Blessings,

pat/PJM

Our Charism is Teaching an d sharing our Catholic Faith.
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Excellent !
 
PJM said:
Hi, I’m a member of such a group:🙂
mariancatechist.com/

It’s a Lay Apostolate founded by the late Father John A. Hardon S. J.; approved by Rome, and currently under the International Direction of His Emmenice Raymond Cardinal Leo Burke; who heads the Roman Curias ***Apostolic Signitura ***[High Court].

Continued Blessings,

pat/PJM

Our Charism is Teaching an d sharing our Catholic Faith.
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👍:D:D:thumbsup:👍
 
Opus Dei is at the forefront of preserving traditional Catholic moral teachings, imo. The Opus Dei members are among the best formed lay Catholics, with strong knowledge of Scripture and Liturgy.
 
PJM said:
Hi, I’m a member of such a group:🙂
mariancatechist.com/

It’s a Lay Apostolate founded by the late Father John A. Hardon S. J.
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I love Fr. Hardon. His Catechism is absolutely awesome! Probably the best Catechism I have read.

now back to your regularly scheduled thread

Peace,
 
Now that I have some time, I’m jumping into the Marian Catechist study materials, which I ordered nearly a year ago. Fr. Hardon was intensely orthodox, and traditional, and his apostolate was continued by now Cardinal Burke (God bless him!).

This page contains a biography of Fr. Hardon: mariancatechist.com/hardon/index.html
 
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