Traditional religious orders?

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Does anyone know of any religious orders for women that celebrate the Latin Mass instead of the novus ordo?
 
Well, at the moment, I don’t think there are any religious orders for women that solely celebrate the Extraordinary Form, however, I’m positive there are a few that may celebrate it along with the Novus Ordo. I think I read somewhere that the order that Mother Angelica belongs to(don’t remember which one) celebrate it from time to time.
 
The Slaves of the Immaculater heart of Mary in Still River, Massachusetts celebrate solely the Latin Mass. Website is: saintbenedict.com/

Mother Angelica’s order does so occasionally but most of the time a reverant and beautiful N.O. Mass.
 
I’m not very familiar with this group, but I think they are associated with the controversial Fr. Leonard Feeney
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If this is the case, I would advise all women to stay away from this Order. The Feeneyites are heretics.
 
Dempsey1919 said:
If this is the case, I would advise all women to stay away from this Order. The Feeneyites are heretics.
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The Feenyites are not heretics. In fact, contrary to what almost everyone thinks, Rome has permitted them to hold to their stict interpretation of Outside the Church there is No Salvation.

I posted the letter on these boards a few months ago.
 
The Feenyites are not heretics. In fact, contrary to what almost everyone thinks, Rome has permitted them to hold to their stict interpretation of Outside the Church there is No Salvation.
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To my knowledge, Leonard Feeney himself was excommunicated by Pius XII for his beliefs concerning Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Sallus.

Furthermore, this doctrine has underwent considerable development as our understanding of it increased. Feeney’s position is incorrect and is not taught by the Church.
 
Dempsey1919 said:
To my knowledge, Leonard Feeney himself was excommunicated by Pius XII for his beliefs concerning Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Sallus.
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That’s what almost everyone thinks, but that’s not what happened. He was excommunicated for not showing up for his trial. The reason he didn’t show up is because they wouldn’t tell him why he was being tried. He refused to show up for the trial without knowing up front what he was being tried for, since he wanted to be able to defend himself with documentation. I’m not saying I agree with him not showing up, but that was the reason he was excommunicated.

He was reconciled without having to retract any of his teachings.

I happened to disagree with him, BTW, but his teachings are not heretical (at least not according to the Church).
Furthermore, this doctrine has underwent considerable development as our understanding of it increased. Feeney’s position is incorrect and is not taught by the Church.
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Again, I don’t agree with his teahcings, but the Church permits them. They basically said, since we allow a more liberal interpretation of the dogma, we will also allow his more strict interpretation.

If I can find the letter, I’ll post it here.
 
Dempsey1919 said:
To my knowledge, Leonard Feeney himself was excommunicated by Pius XII for his beliefs concerning Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Sallus.

Furthermore, this doctrine has underwent considerable development as our understanding of it increased. Feeney’s position is incorrect and is not taught by the Church.
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Quick google search and I found a couple interesting points.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Feeney
Father Feeney was excommunicated in 1953 during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII, for refusing to submit to ecclesiastical authority. He was reconciled to the Church before his death and was not required to retract nor recant his incorrect interpretation of the doctrine, “Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus”, which is inscribed on his tombstone.[citation needed]
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After Fr. Feeney’s death, his spiritual descendants split into several or more groups. The two most prominent both use the name Saint Benedict Center. The branch of the Saint Benedict Center in Harvard, Massachusetts follows the Benedictine Order. It is fully reconciled with the Diocese of Worcester and is the site of a regular Traditional Roman Rite of the Canonized Mass. The other, located in Richmond, New Hampshire, is not in communion with the Catholic Church and is considered by many to be a cult.
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In recent years, Paul Anthony Melanson, a Catholic lay-philosopher and apologist, has exposed the flawed theology and anti-Semitism of the Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, New Hampshire. The Southern Poverty Law Center has listed the center in Richmond as an anti-Semitic hate group.
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catholic.com/newsletters/kke_040113.asp
Ordered to stop teaching his interpretation, Feeney refused and was excommunicated, not technically for teaching heresy but for disobedience. He was reconciled to the Church before his death, and the excommunication was lifted. Some of his followers have tried to construe the reconciliation as a Vatican affirmation of Feeney’s theology, but, since the excommunication did not extend beyond a matter of obedience, the lifting of it did not extend any further.
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I’d think I’d steer clear of these guys even if some how they aren’t teaching heresy. “By their fruits you shall know them.”
 
LJN21 said:
Is there a non-Feenyites source for the info on his excommunication?
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Well, if you think about it, who is going to take the time to defend the Feeneyites if they don’t agree with them?

But, if you search the site that my links came from, they do have some information from non-Feeneyites. For example, in addition to the Bishop’s letter I linked to, the canon lawyer Pete Vere has an article in their defense.

Again, I am not defending their teachings, but we need to be sure not to call them heretics when they actually aren’t. They may be wrong, but it does not rise to the level of heresy… at least not according to the Church.
 
dove51 said:
Does anyone know of any religious orders for women that celebrate the Latin Mass instead of the novus ordo?
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there is no religious order of women that can celebrate Mass in any form. I assume you are asking are their women’s orders for whom Mass is celebrated in the EF

oh excuse me, in looking over thread I realize topic is NOT as stated in thread title and we have instead branched off into what I thought has been a banned topic for some time. you guys go back to your discussion and maybe those interested in religious orders could come on over to the vocations forum so we are less likely to be sidetracked
 
**The Slaves of the Immaculater heart of Mary in Still River, Massachusetts celebrate solely the Latin Mass. Website is: saintbenedict.com/**

My understanding is that they are NOT in regular communion with the Church.
 
I would check that. They are definitely faithful to our Holy Father and the local Bishop has indeed visited them. There was a time when they may not have been, but that is in the past. I personally visited and talked with them as well as with well informed clergy who know them. I don’t think many people would follow up to see if there was a reconciliation, but they have come to an understanding/agreement with the local Bishop. If someone is interested in the order, they should talk with them directly.
 
dove51 said:
Does anyone know of any religious orders for women that celebrate the Latin Mass instead of the novus ordo?
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There are none.
  1. Women don’t celebrate mass.
  2. The OF can be celebrated in Latin and still be the NO.
  3. Are you wondering if there are female religious orders that have only the EF celebrated in their houses?
Ans. That is highly unlikely, because only men can be ordinaries. Female religious superiors cannot dictate how the priest celebrates mass, even within a religious house. The only religioius who can dictate how a priest celebrates mass within their houses are male religious, because male religious superiors are also ordinaries, much like bishops are.

Houses of women religious are subject to either the religious men who are assigned to them as their chaplains or to the bishop of the diocese. The mass at those houses will depend on the bishop or the religious sperior of the male religious who serve the sisters.

Nonetheless, the sisters can request that the EF be celebrated in their chapel, but they cannot make it a rule as they have no ordinary power in the Church.

Hope this helps.

JR 🙂
 
How many sisters have cried themselves to sleep by what was forced upon them?
For sisters there is the Benedictine monastery which depends on male monastery at Barroux in France.
barroux.org/
 
James_Miller said:
How many sisters have cried themselves to sleep by what was forced upon them?
For sisters there is the Benedictine monastery which depends on male monastery at Barroux in France.
barroux.org/
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This may be true. However, they have no Ordinary authority. The only other choice is for those who are sisters to attend mass at a local parish.

Nuns, on the other hand, have a more difficult challenge, because they cannot leave their houses to go to mass. They are stuck with priest that is assigned to them by the Bishop or the male Major Religious Superior.

This does not mean that they cannot make requests. My experience has been that most priests, bishops and religious men are willing to accommodate as much as possible.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
 
Yes, I am well aware that women cannot be priests or offer the sacrifice of the Mass, you guys. :rolleyes:

I found an order, so thank you all for your consideration.
 
There are definately orders, for both men and women, that celebrate the TLM exclusively-- you just have to search a little harder for traditional orders!

I have seen a fairly complete listing of the orders on EWTN’s website in the past, but the page seems to have disappeared. I know, though, of a few orders, just from personal research and I hope that this will be of some assistance.

Men
Institue of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest
institute-christ-king.org/index.html

Fraternity of St. Peter
fssp.org

The Institute of the Good Shepherd
institutdubonpasteur.org/

There’s also an Abbey which recently reconciled with Rome, but I do not recall it’s name at this time.

Women
Carmel of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph
dioceseoflincoln.com/mauve/carmelite.htm
Associated with the FSSP
(One of my friends made her first vows here recently-- pray for her!)

Sister Adorers of the Royal Heart of Jesus Christ Sovereign Priest
institute-christ-king.org/AdorersRoyalHeart.htm
Associated with the ICKSP

There is also a Benedictine order for women, but I cannot find their website at the present.

Although I doubt that these would be acceptable, the SSPX also has many orders which are associated with them. This is the link to the ones in the U.S.: sspx.org/vocations_index.htm

I hope something in this post helps!
 
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