Traditions of men

[traillius]

an oft quoted verse used against the Catholic Church is the one saying " do not follow traditions of men " or words to that effect. I can’t remember, it might be in the first or second letter to timothy. In the case where this is used against catholicism, its done so in a hypocritical way. All christian churches have some traditions of men(humans) that they keep observing. Sing christmas carols in December? you’re observing a tradition of men, since the bible doesn’t command, or give examples of, people singing christmas carols. This is but one example among many.( and in fact this one is fascetious, because christmas carols aren’t evil, unless the words are changed somehow) I am certainly no less a sinner than other people. But I expect when one uses sacred scripture they should at least try to appear as if they are being consistent. Rejecting catholicism because of "traditions of men " while still following other "traditions of men " seems extremely disingenuous, and in fact, is both biblically and logically unsound.

 

[CalCatholic]

The verse that you were thing about is 2 Thessalonians 2:15, **“Therefore brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
**There was no New Testament at this time. Paul wrote to the Churches that he established to correct their teaching and actions. The Gospel at this time was passed on by word of mouth, and these traditions (the Eucharist, songs, prayers, Sunday worship, etc) were passed on by the Apostles and their successors.

 

[James224]

an oft quoted verse used against the Catholic Church is the one saying " do not follow traditions of men " or words to that effect. I can’t remember, it might be in the first or second letter to timothy. In the case where this is used against catholicism, its done so in a hypocritical way. All christian churches have some traditions of men(humans) that they keep observing. Sing christmas carols in December? you’re observing a tradition of men, since the bible doesn’t command, or give examples of, people singing christmas carols. This is but one example among many.( and in fact this one is fascetious, because christmas carols aren’t evil, unless the words are changed somehow) I am certainly no less a sinner than other people. But I expect when one uses sacred scripture they should at least try to appear as if they are being consistent. Rejecting catholicism because of "traditions of men " while still following other "traditions of men " seems extremely disingenuous, and in fact, is both biblically and logically unsound.

Matt 15:2-9 v6 “…and you have made void the commandment of God for your tradition.” Verses 8 & 9 also are quotes from Is 29:13. Jesus condemns traditions of men but upholds proper tradition as shown in Matt 23:1-3. Jesus and the apostles acknowledge this O.T. authority in John 11:47-51. Verse 51 says Caiphas prophecies that Jesus should die for the nation. He said this without knowing what he was saying. Why? Because he had the Urim & Thummin. (Ex 28:30- Douay version says “Doctrine & Truth”) There was an O.T. Magisterium which can be seen in Deut 17:8-12. Especially look at verses 9 & 12 about solving problems and what happens if you didn’t obey.

Gal 1:9 “ …If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema.” Sola Scriptura is a protestant tradition invented by Martin Luther in the 16th century.
Col 2:8 “ Beware lest any man cheat you by philosophy, and vain deceit; according to
the tradition of men….and not according to Christ.” We use Apostolic Tradition as shown i
in 2 Thess 2:15.

 

[Mea_Culpa]

You’re probably thinking of Mark 7:6-9 (This is the KJV, since that is what they would be referencing)

He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with [their] lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.

8For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, [as] the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

The Catholic Church does not reject the commandment of God to keep it’s own tradition. Jesus commands us in John 6:54 - 59

Jesus therefore said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has life everlasting and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, abides in me and I in him. As the living Father has sent me, and as I live because of the Father, she he who eats me, he also shall live becuase of me. This is the bread that has come down from heaven; not as your fathers ate the manne, and died. He who eats this bread shall live forever.”

What Church keeps this commandment of God? The Catholic Church! What churches keep their own traditions (altar calls, etc.)? Which Church keeps the Fifth Commandment, “Thou shalt not kill”? Which churches allow abortion, giving in to the culture of death (traditions of man)?