Training to say the Tridentine

[hamburglar]

I am thinking about a vocation, but I’m not sure yet if it would be diocesan or religious order. Anyway, if I did do the diocesan Seminary, I would be trained to say the Novus Ordo. I would probably at some point down the road offer a Tridentine Mass for the parish, but how would I receive the training to do that? I’ve talked to priests and vocation directors, and they say you have to take Latin at the seminary, so I don’t think the pronounciation and such of the Latin would be the problem. But wouldn’t I need some sort of extra training of all the rubrics of the Tridentine Mass? Would there possibly be like a program for Priests that want to learn how to celebrate the Tridentine Mass?

 

[Tedster]

I am sure you would be able to find training somewhere, but here is an online version for priests and servers:

Sancta Missa

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[otjm]

You don’t say anything about your background. If you have graduated from college, you will probably need to learn Philosophy if you do not already have a degree in it; perhaps not enough for another BA, but certainly more than an introductory course to Philosophy. And odds are that if you have to learn Latin, you will do it at the same time.

After that, you will probably have 4 years of Theology, so the odds are that you will have 6 years to go before you are ordained.

The MP refers to priests being qualified to do so, so it would appear that there is need of training; however, there is no reference to seminaries doing the training. That will have to be worked out over time; whether all seminaries will offer the training, or only some is pure speculation at this time. In any event, it will probably be 4 or more years before that is an issue for you; it is entirely possible that a seminary not offering it now may be doing so by then.

As to discerning between an order and a diocesan priest, in general (but not always) a diocesan priest will be in a parish; other places may be in education (teaching in a high school, or possibly in a seminary), or in administration.

An order priest may or may not end up in a parish; if you pick one that is missionary, you may be in foreign lands; and each order has its own charism and spirituality, which is what you need to explore.

 

[Dempsey1919]

Have you ever though of becoming an FSSP or Christ the King Priest? If you enter these seminaries you know for certain that you will receive a totally orthodox formation. I have no problems with the N.O seminaries but I have heard that some are pretty liberal in their teaching.

I don’t think you’ll really have the time to learn the Tridentine Mass if you go to a N.O seminary because you will have your hands full with other things. I’m not saying that you won’t be able to be trained at some point, but that it may be difficult during the time that you train to become a Priest.

Regardless, I applaud your willingness to consider becoming a Priest. I will pray for you so that you will be able to make a firm decision either way.

Just out of curiosity, what Orders are you considering joining?

 

[hamburglar]

Just out of curiosity, what Orders are you considering joining?

I was looking at the Benedictine Monks, the Discalced Carmelites, maybe Franciscan or Capuchin, and maybe Institute of Christ the King. However, although I love the Tridentine Mass, I don’t think my family could handle me going to a seminary over seas for the Institute of Christ the King.

 

[lak611]

I was looking at the Benedictine Monks, the Discalced Carmelites, maybe Franciscan or Capuchin, and maybe Institute of Christ the King. However, although I love the Tridentine Mass, I don’t think my family could handle me going to a seminary over seas for the Institute of Christ the King.

The FSSP has a seminary in Nebraska.

 

[hamburglar]

The FSSP has a seminary in Nebraska.

Well, it’s also because I don’t think my mother would be up for me doing the TLM. She doesn’t like it, she said that she hated going to Mass as a kid.

The other thing is, I kinda want to work for a Bishop. It sounds strange, but if I were to choose to be a priest instead of a monk, I would want to work for the Bishop.

AHHH! This is all making my head spin! It really bugs me how little reverence is at most of the NO masses, but I don’t want to flee and minister to only those who already know the TLM. I want to bring the beautiful liturgy to the people, so that they may know the beauty of the TLM.

 

[skatepixie]

I think you will have to have a conversation with your mom about what YOU want to do with YOUR life. What you want to do is good, moral, and Godly, and you should not give up on doing it because of the way your mother chooses to worship.

As for bringing people to the TLM, but offering a good TLM in communion with Rome, it will help bring people into it. I only very recently became involved in TLM (although I’ve wanted to try it for years, I didn’t know of one in communion with Rome in my area). My friend casually mentioned that his parents attend one about twenty minutes away. I would have has no idea, because I had no way of knowing everything that was going on at a parish 20 min away.

 

[Genesis315]

I think you will have to have a conversation with your mom about what YOU want to do with YOUR life.

And also what God wants him to do with his life–that is what the discernment process is all about .

For example, St. Vincent Strambi’s parents wanted him to be a parish priest, but he became a Passionist because it was God’s call for him.

 

[BritishCatholic]

AHHH! This is all making my head spin! It really bugs me how little reverence is at most of the NO masses, but I don’t want to flee and minister to only those who already know the TLM. I want to bring the beautiful liturgy to the people, so that they may know the beauty of the TLM.

I understand exactly how you feel.

My first recommendation is to pray about your discernment. Prayer truly does help.

Second, while going to a FSSP seminary would greatly fulfill your love for the Tridentine Mass, I don’t think you have to worry much about going to a Diocesan seminary. The Church is changing. LAUS DEO the Church is changing. In the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s, a conservative/traditionalist wouldn’t dare to enter a Diocesan seminary. But now, it seems that tradition and the prominence of the priesthood is returning.

Anyway, back to your original statement, if you choose to go to, say, a Diocesan seminary, you can definitely bring the beauty of the Tridentine Mass to the regular Catholic community.

 

[skatepixie]

And also what God wants him to do with his life–that is what the discernment process is all about .

For example, St. Vincent Strambi’s parents wanted him to be a parish priest, but he became a Passionist because it was God’s call for him.

Correct. I just meant that it is his life to live, and not his mother’s.

I had a friend here at college who’s father was dead set on her becoming a doctor, when she wanted to go into business. I told her the same thing…it’s your life, and you don’t want to be looking back when you’re 50 years old, unhappy with what you’re doing, realizing you only did it because of someone else’s desire for you.

 

[BobP123]

I would say keep in mind that a priest is a priest. What Mass he says is beside the point. He has plenty of duties and responsibilities outside of Mass. Decide on an order which you can be most comfortable with. If you find one, then God has called you to that order.

 

[Artfulldodger]

If all you have to decide upon is the language issue then Berlitz will do the job.

 

[markadm]

And also what God wants him to do with his life–that is what the discernment process is all about .

Absolutely! I had the same kind of questions, and realised I didn’t know the answer. Was I called to the Diocesan Priesthood, or the FSSP?

I still don’t know the answer, but a Priest said to me “look, see where your talents lie, by all means see where your preferences lie, but find out where you are called to serve and then do everything to get there”. God will provide, after all.

I don’t agree when BobP says “What Mass he says is beside the point”–with many now, there is a greater aesthetic at stake. This aesthetic is not just plain old art, it belies the belief and faith underneath. For some then, the novus ordo becomes incompatible with how they are… anyway, I do agree when he says:

[The Priest] has plenty of duties and responsibilities outside of Mass. Decide on an order which you can be most comfortable with. If you find one, then God has called you to that order.

 

[Silver_Thread]

I am thinking about a vocation, but I’m not sure yet if it would be diocesan or religious order. Anyway, if I did do the diocesan Seminary, I would be trained to say the Novus Ordo. I would probably at some point down the road offer a Tridentine Mass for the parish, but how would I receive the training to do that? I’ve talked to priests and vocation directors, and they say you have to take Latin at the seminary, so I don’t think the pronounciation and such of the Latin would be the problem. But wouldn’t I need some sort of extra training of all the rubrics of the Tridentine Mass? Would there possibly be like a program for Priests that want to learn how to celebrate the Tridentine Mass?/QUOT

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