Transalpine Redemptorists receive canonical recognition

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"I, Hugh Gilbert, O.S.B, by the grace of God Bishop of Aberdeen, decree that the community known as the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer, be erected as a Religious Institute of Diocesan right in accordance with c 579 of the Code of Canon Law 1983. The Institute will be subject to all other applicable norms of the said code and governed by the statutes of the said community previously approved by the Holy See.

Given this day 15th August in the year of Our Lord 2012"

The “Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer” have now been canonically erected, officially, in the Diocese of Aberdeen! Isn’t this GREAT!

www.papastronsay.blogspot.com is their blog, so please say a prayer for them, and congratulate them!
 
Fr. Michael Mary and his sons must be ecstatic! This is wonderful news!

Blessed be God and His Most Holy Mother now and forever!

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why won’t the head of the Redemptorists let the Transalpine Redemtorists call themselves Redemtporists or let them be part opf the Redeptorists?

its late. not sure if my question makes sense
 
I’ve always loved the Redemptorists, especially this order! Deo Gracias!!
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Trilor said:
why won’t the head of the Redemptorists let the Transalpine Redemtorists call themselves Redemtporists or let them be part opf the Redeptorists?

its late. not sure if my question makes sense
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The Transalpine Redemptorists were established to return to the Redemptorist life St. Alphonsus envisioned. They intentionally separated themselves from the CSsR and at the time the Church, being SSPX affiliated. I suppose it would be comparable to Capuchins separating from OFM, CFR from Capuchins, etc, in that they (the Sons) have a different life than the CSsR while are still called Redemptorist.
 
BertBlyleven said:
The Transalpine Redemptorists were established to return to the Redemptorist life St. Alphonsus envisioned. They intentionally separated themselves from the CSsR and at the time the Church, being SSPX affiliated. I suppose it would be comparable to Capuchins separating from OFM, CFR from Capuchins, etc, in that they (the Sons) have a different life than the CSsR while are still called Redemptorist.
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I thought I read somewhere though that when they wanted to return to full communion after the Motu Proprio, the greater order would not allow them back? I’m not sure.
 
My congratulations to the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer 🙂
denitaA said:
I’ve always loved the Redemptorists, especially this order! Deo Gracias!!
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@denitaA: just a small correction, it’s Deo gratias (although it reads gracias) 🙂
 
TrueLight said:
I thought I read somewhere though that when they wanted to return to full communion after the Motu Proprio, the greater order would not allow them back? I’m not sure.
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Regardless if they wanted to, I would bet more than a few quid that the greater order did not want them.
 
Br JR once gave the detailed situation here and here. The problem is, to stay a Redemptorist, they need to vow obedience to the Superior General of the Redemptorist and accept the current Redemptorist constitution.

Since they choose to amend the Redemptorist constitution, thus creating different obedience, they cannot canonically stay within the Redemptorist congregation.

Either they become a Redemptorist by obedience to the Superior General and current constitution, or creating new society apart from the Redemptorist.
 
Now these amazing men can be ordained, as a few have been waiting for quite some time now. Deo Gratias!

It’s not easy living where they do, as I am given to understand. But in the end, they reverted to obedience to Rome and patience, being a virtue, has paid off.

I can’t imagine a warmer feeling in the Orkney Islands than knowing God has answered their prayers in HIS time.
 
sicutincensum said:
My congratulations to the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer 🙂

@denitaA: just a small correction, it’s Deo gratias (although it reads gracias) 🙂
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For some reason, I was thinkingSpanishnotLatin.:blush:Thanks for the correction.:tiphat:
 
Alfonsus said:
Br JR once gave the detailed situation here and here. The problem is, to stay a Redemptorist, they need to vow obedience to the Superior General of the Redemptorist and accept the current Redemptorist constitution.

Since they choose to amend the Redemptorist constitution, thus creating different obedience, they cannot canonically stay within the Redemptorist congregation.

Either they become a Redemptorist by obedience to the Superior General and current constitution, or creating new society apart from the Redemptorist.
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I find the issue quite confusing, but it would seem that the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer have a community and constitution separate from the Redemptorists. Fr. Michael Mary posted here last April and said that when they reconciled, the Redemptorists Superior General at the time never asked them to vow obedience to him, nor accept their constitutions.

But maybe this was because they were not canonically recognised at the time. Fr. Michael Mary also said that they had thought that they had to give up the name ‘Redemptorists,’ but as it turned out, they didn’t. Hence the name, “Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer.” But I think this is why they still refer to themselves, also, as Redemptorists.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=9197788&postcount=375
 
Such good news! There is already some information about them on wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_the_Most_Holy_Redeemer
which has a link to this news article in Catholic Herald

"The Congregation of the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer, also known as the Transalpine Redemptorists, was erected today, on the feast of the Assumption, as a Clerical Institute of Diocesan Right.

The community, which has about 15 members, has been in limbo since 2008 when it announced that it wished to enter into full communion with Rome.

The group’s decision was a response to Pope Benedict XVI’s Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum, which allowed priests to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass freely.

Previously, the community had been a part of the worldwide Society of St Pius X (SSPX), the estranged traditionalist group currently in dialogue with Rome.

Next Wednesday evening, August 22, the community are to make a public profession of vows at their home on Papa Stronsay, a tiny, windswept island in Orkney, off the north-east of Scotland. The profession will be celebrated by Bishop Hugh Gilbert OSB of Aberdeen, who, as their diocesan bishop, granted them canonical recognition.":highprayer:
catholicherald.co.uk/news/2012/08/15/traditionalist-group-granted-formal-status-within-the-church-after-a-four-year-wait/
 
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