Transgender In Love

[JustaSinner]

one thing i havent heard is crossdressing not being a sin. I checked out some threads but i didnt find the same result that the original post says

Deuteronomy 22:5 applies the same Hebrew word for moral abomination to crossdressing as applied to homosexual acts. Deut 22:5 A woman shall not be clothed with man’s apparel, neither shall a man use woman’s apparel: for he that doeth these things is abominable before God. (Douay-Rheims)

God Bless

 

[CopticChristian]

May God bless you and your partner! Many people on these boards don’t understand the complexity of transgenderism. I am a cis-gender male. I am in a relationship with a transgender male. Since the church does not recognize my partner’s transition, I am in essence, in the church’s eyes, in a heterosexual dating relationship. I have posted on these boards before asking if the Church would marry us, and I’ve gotten a variety of answers. It works in our favor that we are capable of procreation.

Anyway, best of luck to you and may God bless you!

Nj,

The secular world in general is creating a world of misunderstanding…LGBT=Homosexual, regardless of what you call it. Humani Generous says you can accept evloution but not deny Adam and Eve…to accept the secular world portrayal of Homosexuality in any context is to deny Adam and Eve.

Though the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) notes that a high percentage–perhaps as much as 75%–of GID children go on to identify as bisexual or gay, a causative relationship cannot be offered. We have no way of knowing, for example, why the other 25% self-identified as heterosexual; nor do we know the number of matched comparisons of heterosexuals who were classified as GID children, but later managed to make the transition to heterosexuality.

 

[CopticChristian]

My situation is celibate. Why is joining a holy order a requirement?

VeryWell,

Live as if you have acquired the Sacrament of Holy Orders…

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

VeryWell,

Live as if you have acquired the Sacrament of Holy Orders…

So VeryWell should witness marriages and preform baptisms?

 

[CopticChristian]

So VeryWell should witness marriages and preform baptisms?

Dakota,

Live in Poverty as much as you are able, Live in Chastity as much as you are able and live in obedience as much as you are able, sharing in the Priesthood of Christ…Baptisms are possible…however marriages, probably not.

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

Dakota,

Live in Poverty as much as you are able, Live in Chastity as much as you are able and live in obedience as much as you are able, sharing in the Priesthood of Christ…Baptisms are possible…however marriages, probably not.

Most don’t take vows of poverty

 

[CopticChristian]

Most don’t take vows of poverty

Dakota,

Those that do, do…some don’t and don’t

NORMS COMMON TO ALL INSTITUTES OF CONSECRATED LIFE (Cann. 573 - 606)

Can. 573 §1. The life consecrated through the profession of the evangelical counsels is a stable form of living by which the faithful, following Christ more closely under the action of the Holy Spirit, are totally dedicated to God who is loved most of all, so that, having been dedicated by a new and special title to His honor, to the building up of the Church, and to the salvation of the world, they strive for the perfection of charity in the service of the kingdom of God and, having been made an outstanding sign in the Church, foretell the heavenly glory.

§2. The Christian faithful freely assume this form of living in institutes of consecrated life canonically erected by competent authority of the Church. Through vows or other sacred bonds according to the proper laws of the institutes, they profess the evangelical counsels of chastity, poverty, and obedience and, through the charity to which the counsels lead, are joined in a special way to the Church and its mystery.

The bottom line is, our priests are required to live simply, but they have not necessarily taken a vow of poverty. They have the right to appropriate compensation for their ministry to us, which of course is beyond price in any case.

 

[CopticChristian]

“cis-gender people” are people with no gender issues to differentiate them from the norm. So people. The term sprung up a long time ago and has sometimes carried vaguely pejorative undertones.

Ephesians,

The entire vocabulary is nonsense to justify a wish, desire, preference, and deny that in the beginning He created them Male and Female…

not

Male
Female
Gay?
Bisexual?
Transgender?
Cis-Gender?

just

Male and Female…

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

Ephesians,

The entire vocabulary is nonsense to justify a wish, desire, preference, and deny that in the beginning He created them Male and Female…

not

Male
Female
Gay?
Bisexual?
Transgender?
Cis-Gender?

just

Male and Female…

Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual don’t contradict male and female

 

[CopticChristian]

Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual don’t contradict male and female

DR,

“cis-gender people” are people with no gender issues to differentiate them from the norm. So people. The term sprung up a long time ago and has sometimes carried vaguely pejorative undertones.

The discussion is in reference to this statement. The notion that there are varieties of people other than Male and Female is a creation for discussion. What is in their mind, what their world may look like does not create a separate class of people…

LGBT are people that are Male and Female, correct?

LGBT are people that have a view of the world that suggests that other than Male and Female there are other types of people, correct?

Your suggestion that I was offering a contradiction may be relevant to I am suggesting that there is no contradistinction…

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

DR,

The discussion is in reference to this statement. The notion that there are varieties of people other than Male and Female is a creation for discussion. What is in their mind, what their world may look like does not create a separate class of people…

LGBT are people that are Male and Female, correct?

LGBT are people that have a view of the world that suggests that other than Male and Female there are other types of people, correct?

Your suggestion that I was offering a contradiction may be relevant to I am suggesting that there is no contradistinction…

Masculum et feminam creavit eos, et benedixit illis

Non

 

[GEddie]

Physically, there are two versions of the human body, determined by the genes.

The other various permutations of sexual politics are a societal creation. IMNAAHO.

ICXC NIKA

 

[CopticChristian]

Masculum et feminam creavit eos, et benedixit illis

Non

DR,

Let me repeat myself…

Die Diskussion ist im Hinweis auf dieser Aussage. Der Begriff, daß es Vielzahl der Leute anders als Mann und Frau gibt, ist eine Kreation für Diskussion. Was in ihrem Verstand ist, was ihre Welt schauen kann, wie verursacht nicht eine unterschiedliche Kategorie Leute…, LGBT sind die Leute, die männlich und Frau sind, korrekt? LGBT sind Leute, die eine Ansicht der Welt haben, die vorschlägt, daß anders als Mann und Frau dort andere Arten Leute sind, korrekt? Ihr Vorschlag, daß ich einen Widerspruch anbot, kann zu mir relevant sein vorschlagen, daß es kein contradistinction… gibt

 

[CopticChristian]

Physically, there are two versions of the human body, determined by the genes.

The other various permutations of sexual politics are a societal creation. IMNAAHO.

ICXC NIKA

GE,

So, you are saying that the obvious is the obvious and what is not obvious is related to thinking other than the obvious that is thinking and not obvious because thinking occurs in the head.

 

[GEddie]

It’s not even in our heads, it’s a practical joke put on by the general society to keep everybody obsessed with sexuality.

This sort of stuff wouldn’t rate a place in our heads, were it not kept in our eyes and ears all the time.

ICXC NIKA

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

DR,

Let me repeat myself…

Latin is always the superior language when seriously discussing the Church.

I was quoting the Bible.

I said “He created them male and female; and blessed them” which is half of Genesis 5:2. Latin is always relevant to theology in the Church, deal with it (id est learn it)

 

[CopticChristian]

Latin is always the superior language when seriously discussing the Church.

I was quoting the Bible.

I said “He created them male and female; and blessed them” which is half of Genesis 5:2. Latin is always relevant to theology in the Church, deal with it (id est learn it)

DR,

In the world of Science, it is often said, when you think you have discovered a new idea it probably means that you don’t read German…why didn’t you just say so…?

" er stellte sie Mann und Frau her; und gesegnet ihnen "

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

DR,

In the world of Science, it is often said, when you think you have discovered a new idea it probably means that you don’t read German…why didn’t you just say so…?

Is German the official language of science, is it sine qua non?

That is a non sequitur by the way.

 

[CopticChristian]

Is German the official language of science, is it sine qua non?

That is a non sequitur by the way.

DR,

You are a hoot…:hug3:…out to you my friend…

There is no official language of science…however when you are in the circles of those looking, writing, there is always a suggestion to search German Literature…many times you find stuff there that you may have overlooked…clever folks…

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

DR,

You are a hoot…:hug3:…out to you my friend…

There is no official language of science…however when you are in the circles of those looking, writing, there is always a suggestion to search German Literature…many times you find stuff there that you may have overlooked…clever folks…

This is irrelevant to the thread, you asked me

LGBT are people that are Male and Female, correct?

LGBT are people that have a view of the world that suggests that other than Male and Female there are other types of people, correct?

which I responded with

Masculum et feminam creavit eos, et benedixit illis

Non