Transgender Pediatric Patient

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Office clerk or no, as a Catholic asking for some advice on how to follow their conscience in this area, this person deserves a lot more respect than you are displaying on this thread. Disgraceful rudeness.
 
AndrewAxland said:
You’re always free to go to medical school to get the level of information you need to understand the nature of the issues involved in medical ethics and shape opinion and discourse as a scholar. consultant or member of the board of ethics.That way, you can shape opinion and discourse on the matter.
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How would you feel if I said that you weren’t qualified to have an opinion about transgenderism until you get a PhD in philosophy? What, you think that’s asking too much?

Look in the mirror.
 
Don’t you do that too when you claim people are pushing people away from the Church by being uncharitable or something or perhaps frank?
 
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Prodigal_Son said:
How would you feel if I said that you weren’t qualified to have an opinion about transgenderism until you get a PhD in philosophy? What, you think that’s asking too much?
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I wouldn’t give a rats behind. You can say whatever you like. It’s a free country. And I have the right to take your opinion for what it’s worth, which is nothing in my opinion.

As for “transgenderism”, whatever that is, what does that have to do with anything I have written?
 
SeriousQuestion said:
Don’t you do that too when you claim people are pushing people away from the Church by being uncharitable or something or perhaps frank.
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I have said nothing about religion in this thread. I don’t view this as a religious question.
 
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AndrewAxland:
That is not true at all. Every hospital has an ethics committee. As a research pathologist, everything I plan to do has to be run by the ethics committee. And everything I do is reviewed by the ethics committee.
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I teach ethics, and I know precisely what training those people on the ethics committee usually have: 1-3 classes. They certainly have far more medical expertise than I have, but I’m not always certain that their expertise in ethics merits the vaunted influence they have in the ethical trajectory of our country.
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Weird. The ethics board at the hospital I work for requires doctorate level degrees. And after i graduated I looked into ethics boards as I specialized in ethics. And they all want Ph.Ds or MDs.
 
Rhubarb said:
Weird. The ethics board at the hospital I work for requires doctorate level degrees. And after i graduated I looked into ethics boards as I specialized in ethics. And they all want Ph.Ds or MDs.
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Doctoral level degrees in what? Medicine, or ethics (i.e. philosophy)?
 
AndrewAxland said:
I wouldn’t give a rats behind. You can say whatever you like. It’s a free country. And I have the right to take your opinion for what it’s worth, which is nothing in my opinion.
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Do you claim that ethicists do not have valuable opinions about war, unless they are generals? Do you claim that ethicists have nothing to say of value about business ethics, unless they are in business?
 
Ph.D in philosophy with demonstrated work in ethics or MDs I noticed specifically because they’re relevant to my education. They might have accepted RNs with advanced degrees, or degrees in social work and such too. Once I read they wanted doctorate in philosophy I put it out of my mind.
 
Rhubarb said:
Ph.D in philosophy with demonstrated work in ethics or MDs I noticed specifically because they’re relevant to my education.
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The “or MDs” part means that people can be on the Board of Ethics while only having 1-2 ethics classes.

Or that’s how I’m reading it…
 
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SeriousQuestion said:
I think this would vary from place to place.
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Not much. The only exception I can think of is a member of the clergy in religiously affiliated hospitals. Otherwise, higher-level degrees and demonstrable experience are the rule.

The OP’s organization is Catholic. It is very likely that there is a member of the clergy or a member of a religious order on the board.
 
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Andrew Axland thanks for highjacking the thread. You made your point or points, My eyes are glazed over by now. Now let’s get back to the topic.
 
For all the discussion of Axlands style, the point he made somewhere in all of that could make me feel better if I were the OP. The doctors will decide what is in the patient’s medical interest. Your involvement doesn’t guarantee anything in particular will happen medically.
 
MDs have a ton of training in bioethics. Especially ones who are eligible for ethics boards.
 
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Rhubarb said:
MDs have a ton of training in bioethics.
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This is simply untrue. There are few requirements in most med schools, as far as ethics goes. I don’t have a problem with that, but it’s untrue that going to med school makes one a medical ethicist.

Edit: Some medical schools are excellent in terms of bioethics preparation, but some aren’t.
 
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Hi Callinic,
Welcome to the whacky world of CAF.

I am delighted you asked this question, because I had a dilemma a few years ago that is incredibly vaguely similar and I handled it badly as I didn’t have anyone to ask advice of. Oddly, I was reflecting on that today and kind of kicking myself, but then I had to recall that the issue was new and people hadn’t figured out how to handle these things.
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Anyway, what I learned since then is to treat everyone with politeness and respect, and pray for them if they are blatantly involved in something immoral and/or potentially harmful.

So in your situation, make the appointment and pray for those involved. You are not doing anything that facilitates wrongdoing, and for all you know the referral doctor might help steer the family in a good direction.
 
I don’t think I could offer better advice than this. It’s one thing to be explicitly involved in procuring something you know to be evil, but the OP doesn’t describe something that clear cut.
 
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