Transitional Fossils and the Theory of Evolution in relation to Genesis Accounts

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Neo-Darwinian theory (or Modern Synthesis) is incomplete and needs extension, and has competition from:
  • symbiogenesis (cooperation between species)
  • horizontal gene transfer (i.e., non-parental transfer)
  • inheritance of acquired characteristics (e.g., sperm RNAs).
All of these, and others, are elements of current evolutionary theory. The “Modern Synthesis” was developed from about 1900 to 1920 as Mendelian genetics was incorporated into the then existing theory. Since that time Kimura’s Neutral theory, symbogenesis (as you mention), DNA sequencing and more have been incorporated.

A scientific theory is not something static. It develops to incorporate new evidence as such new evidence is discovered.
 
Thank you for so succinctly summarising the evidence for Intelligent Design.
Male and female is evidence for ID by a wise and loving Creator. Despite wishful speculation to the contrary of a purely random and naturalistic origin to humanity, male and female has been there since the beginning when Almighty God created Adam and Eve.
 
Neo-Darwinian theory (or Modern Synthesis) is incomplete and needs extension, and has competition from:
  • symbiogenesis (cooperation between species)
  • horizontal gene transfer (i.e., non-parental transfer)
  • inheritance of acquired characteristics (e.g., sperm RNAs).
Most TE’s here will ignore this evidence…
 
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The existence of male and female has made the human experience to be rich, better… and possible.
And male and female are not unique to humans.

Still don’t see how it’s relevant.
"…Supporters of intelligent design observed that the functional parts and systems of living organisms are “irreducibly complex,” in the sense that none of their component parts can be removed without causing the whole system to cease functioning. From this premise, they inferred that no such system could have come about through the gradual alteration of functioning precursor systems by means of random mutation and natural selection, as the standard evolutionary account maintains; instead, living organisms must have been created all at once by an intelligent designer.

Source: intelligent design | History & Facts | Britannica
Interdependency is built into the earth’s ecological systems. Interdependency is built into the many systems of the human body (circulatory, respiratory, digestive, glandular, more). This cannot have happened blindly and incrementally. The reproductive system of the male is dependent upon the reproductive system of the female to reproduce. We have air to breath continuously. The earth provides food to eat and water to drink. Gravity doesn’t crush us. There are many provisions (as in nature) that sustain us. We have a Creator to love, serve, thank and obey. Science can’t see beyond death but the Bible says: “We must all appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ.”. If we can be humble, God can be merciful.
 
Male and female is evidence for ID by a wise and loving Creator. Despite wishful speculation to the contrary of a purely random and naturalistic origin to humanity, male and female has been there since the beginning when Almighty God created Adam and Eve.
Then all hermaphrodite species and plants were not created by your “loving” God who arranged for male spiders to be eaten by the females? Erm… Don’t call us, we’ll call you.

You need to be a lot more accurate in your posts if you want to be taken seriously. Start with the Evolution of sexual reproduction and follow on from there.
 
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stoplooklisten:
The existence of male and female has made the human experience to be rich, better… and possible.
And male and female are not unique to humans.

Still don’t see how it’s relevant.
"…Supporters of intelligent design observed that the functional parts and systems of living organisms are “irreducibly complex,” in the sense that none of their component parts can be removed without causing the whole system to cease functioning. From this premise, they inferred that no such system could have come about through the gradual alteration of functioning precursor systems by means of random mutation and natural selection, as the standard evolutionary account maintains; instead, living organisms must have been created all at once by an intelligent designer.

Source: intelligent design | History & Facts | Britannica
Interdependency is built into the earth’s ecological systems. Interdependency is built into the many systems of the human body (circulatory, respiratory, digestive, glandular, more). This cannot have happened blindly and incrementally.
Right, life has to support life, everything has to be in place at the same time for it to all work together.
 
So, what is the test for Creationism? What could God not create? Darwin specified things that could not evolve, so as to provide a potential falsification of his theory. What are the potential scientific falsifications of Creationism?
??? You think Creationism is science?

Just curious - what things did Darwin say could not evolve?
 
Our scriptures do not touch on the how of creation, because that wasn’t the point of them. It’s silly to read science into something that was never meant to convey such things. The purpose of the scriptures is to reveal God’s purpose for man via the person of Christ. Evolution- or a vehement denial of the lack thereof- simply isn’t found in the scriptures AT ALL. The only thing the scriptures tell us is that God is responsible for creation. The details are actually so unimportant in the bigger picture as to not even warrant a mention. The Old Testament points to Christ with types and anti-types of Christ. The scriptures aren’t scientific documents, and I honestly don’t see how science can be applied to them. Genesis is based on oral tradition and has a completely different focus than what science would even be looking at. Not everything is meant to be taken literally (especially in the way many seem to) and Genesis is meant to be a spiritual description of events that took place before time even existed. I’ll stick with the church fathers and what they have to say over the evolution vs. YEC debate that attempts to read things into the scriptures that aren’t there.
 
Science does not require complete evidence.
Science is subjective - one man’s “evidence” is another man’s junk.

Take embryology for example:. Some Darwinists believe a human embryo has “gills”! Hilarious. Darwinian embryology is quack science.

Most Darwinsts think the fossil record supports universal common ancestry. Hilarious - the fossil record actually contradicts UCA.
 
If ID wants to be science, then it needs to do the work of science. Actually producing a catalogue of the fcsi content of various species would be a start. For example, how much fcsi is there is a Covid-19 virus? Where is the relevant ID research? Real science has done a great deal of research into that virus; where is the ID side’s research? Has ID even determined yet whether or not the Covid-19 virus was designed yet?
The neo-Darwinian version of the history of life on earth and its explanation of the process involved has not produced a single practical use. It is totally irelevant to “real science”.
 
That existing evidence shows that evolution is currently the best explanation available.
… despite the fact that it can’t explain the fossil record. So much for “the best explanation” available - it fails the most fundamental test and falls at the first hurdle!!

Btw, your claim that “evolution is currently the best explanation available” is just your opinion - lots of people think creation is the “currently best explanation available”. What you should have said is, Neo-Darwinism is “currently the best SCIENTIFIC explanation available” (for what it’s worth, which is nothing).
Neo-Darwinian theory (or Modern Synthesis) is incomplete and needs extension
… the understatement of the century.

Neo-Darwinism is useful only for explaining changes in gene frequency within a species population. As for explaining the history of life on earth, it’s a farce and a failure.

It’s accepted by the scientific community only because it’s their “best” explanation, not because it’s a satisfactory explanation.
and has competition from …
The neo-Darwinist explanation for the history of life on earth has only one enemy - reality, in the form of scientific evidence.
 
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Our scriptures do not touch on the how of creation.
Yes, Scripture does speak to this. Genesis is history and speaks with significant detail about the six days of Creation, the genealogies of Adam and Eve and their descendants, about the global flood at the time of Noah, about the origin of nations. For genealogies, see Genesis chapters 5, 10, 11. If Genesis chapters 1-11 were meant to be a spiritual/spiritualized description of events then it wouldn’t have included so much precise detail.

Also, Hebrews 11:3 tells us how God did it: What is visible came into being through the invisible.
I’ll stick with the church fathers and what they have to say…
If necessary, I can provide multiple quotes to affirm six day creation from the Early Church Fathers with the specifics on the source of the quote. I could quote these Early Church Fathers: St. Ambrose, St. Archelaus, St, Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Basil, the Venerable Bede, St. Clement of Alexandria, more.

Nothing is impossible with God. Almighty God can make a young universe look old if He decrees so.
 
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Just curious - what things did Darwin say could not evolve?
So, you fall into the “I haven’t read Darwin because I know he was wrong” camp.

These two quotes come form Chapter Six of ‘Origin’:
If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.

If it could be proved that any part of the structure of any one species had been formed for the exclusive good of another species, it would annihilate my theory, for such could not have been produced through natural selection.
The first of these was used by Professor Behe to develop the idea of Irreducible Complexity. That had a small success in that it made an improvement to the then existing theory, which has now been incorporated.
 
Take embryology for example:. Some Darwinists believe a human embryo has “gills”!
All fish and tetrapod embryos have gill arches (not gills) at an early stage. In fish, those arches develop into jaws and gills, in tetrapods they develop into jaws and various structures in the neck and ear. See Branchial arches for details.

I assume your source did not explain all of that. It just lied by omission to try to make evolution look silly.
 
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