No more than my mother should suffer from migraines if a cure is found, no more, than a good friend of mine should suffer from autism if a cure is found, no more than my spouse should suffer from psoriatic arthraitis if a cure is found, no more than I should suffer from passing frequent kidneystones if a cure is found, you get the gist?
the suffeing you mentioned is not of the same order. Suffering connected to and at the heart of all woundedness caused by seperation from other and ourselves is profoundly more important and imbued with the dignity of a higher order.
But it’s all medical along with being transsexual.
There is a spiritual element in that the first sacrament is broken in the original sin, the ministers of which were not defined by holy orders as we know them but ministers defined by their distinct roles to reproduce and safegaurd the styructures of human society.
Can you put than in American English please>
Hun, I’m thinking that maybe you didn’t read all of the posts on this thread
And yes, we prayed!!alright , I see the word ‘urge’ is stigmatized. I wan’t refering to a sexual urge. I was refering to a need I can’t relate to. The need to identify with a gender that my body isn’t able to express. What is it then a gnawing? Maybe the pain involved is deeper than I can imagine. I’m sorry I seem to not be able to detach the need to identify with a particular gender from the need to be close with it’s opposite. There must be alot more of me than I realize lost if I lost my masculinity. I dunno, I do know that our sexual identity is not the deepest expression of ourselves. I know there is a part of us that is not supposed to become subconscious that is not attached to gender at all. This is the place transexuals could help awaken and be a source of healing for many.Hun, I’m thinking that maybe you didn’t read all of the posts on this thread
The “urge” … I guess you could compare it with having the “urge” to urinate. You didn’t ask for that to happen, it’s just the way your body works. Now you could offer this up and you know that if you don’t give in to the “urge” you’ll grow stronger. You’ll develope greater self control. How long do you deny this “urge” before you burst and cause erepairable damage to yourself???
I know, silly comparison.
Most of us here did deny our “urge” and some are still doing so. For some of us, during that denial, we became alchoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts. We caused untold pain and heartache to others and did physical harm to ourselves. We wound up on anti-depressants and for some that still was not enough.
I commend you on your celibacy, however, many of us are celibate even after having gone through everything we have and you know what!!?? The pain of celibacy, to me at any rate, is really not a big deal. Having sex is not up there as one of my top priorities. It’s nice but I would settle for having someone to hug and cuddle up to.
For those faced with gender identity issues it is more than a sexual urge as you stated. Gender identity for me was an entity established years before I would have been old enough to have any kind of sexual feelings, before I had any knowledge that there was a physical difference between male and female. I just knew what I was, and at somepoint in my development realized that on a physical level I was perceived as something other than that by others. I agree that we are to be spiritual creatures and function on a level above animal instincts, but even in that spiritual sense there seems to be a sense of self. We function in a physical world and our physical makeup also is a part of how we are perceived on the level above physical by others. Somewhere in that area is where I find the need to be perceived as female to conform to my inner sense of being female.
Hi therese,
I can remember being about 4 years old before I started pre-k. As I can remember that was the first time I can remember being told that something was for little girls, and boys don’t want those. In that instance it was that I wanted a My Little Pony Toy and my brother was making fun of me. That was the first of many experiences that led to the realization that there was a distinction between what was female and what was male, and that they functioned in different realms. For some reason I was being grouped into the realm of boys while my girl couisns, the girls in our neigborhood that I had played with as a toddler, and the girls in my class at pre-k were grouped with the girls. I still had no concept of physical differences, at least not that I remember. I realized we wore different clothing and I guess by kinderarten and first grade I had come to the realization that I was supposed to be dressing and acting like a boy and I would be the subject of ridcule and criticism if I didn’t. I honestly feel that I spent the years before finally addressng my issues trying to be someone I really was not, trying to conform to societies concept of me based on my physical reality apart from my inner reality. I used the word “entity” more in its meaning as “essence” and not that it was separate from me. I feel it was very much a part of me, but I wanted to stress how gender is an essence of ones self, not a physical characterisic. My concept of gender defines how I see myself in a society where two genders exist. In my case my concept of my gender was divergent from the way I was developing physically although there was ambiguity in my physical development as well. It’s hard to relate the sum total of my experience that brought me to where I am now, but I have tried to sum it up for you in a few words.
Therese, thank you for allowing a sensitive question and being generous eneogh to be willing to summarize your experience. I understand what you mean now. I was thinking you were describing a two year old and before experience which would make a gender entity ( I like the entity term) memory a curious phenomenon.
I don’t mind, even though I guess it wasn’t quite clear or didn’t succinctly express my thoughts. I just wanted to try to make clear that my concept of my gender was already there and existed without a physical knowledge of gender from my earliest memories.Therese, thank you for allowing a sensitive question and being generous eneogh to be willing to summarize your experience. I understand what you mean now. I was thinking you were describing a two year old and before experience which would make a gender entity ( I like the entity term) memory a curious phenomenon.
I was reading and thought to myself…if she means what I’m reading she’s either confused lying or this is quite the phenomenon! Anyway , it wasn’t you it was me being dumb.
I hope you don’t mind if I use the term ‘gender entity’?