Transsexualism, why is it so dispised

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as one of that large group who have opinions unlike your own…its always the agenda to make your group…the controlling element,the establishment,appear to be …sob…in the depised minority…hey …raise your hands first and you get a charming lovable photo of MJackson looking like a girl a white girl…since he was obviously a rascist who hated being black !..name the two all time movies voted on by hollyweird…hint…both movies had to do with guys dressing as women.ie;so called comedies…tick tick tick!!! the poster is correct of course,why would anyone dispute the concept,that a cool guy feeling he is a woman for the day ,must have the right to go into a womens bathroom and sorta…well …you know. More and more,as in nazi germany,its all in reversal…what was always considered normal…is now a hate crime by that certain group…and what was always considered a sickness is now ‘in’ and anyone having different views must be silenced and sent to a re-education center. the inmates run the asylum…one saw that in the constant coverage of the pervert who overdosed…imagine if you will the deadly influence the estabishment has to glorify a loser like MJ…now millions of kids feel they can live that type of lifestyle…drugs,shake the bacon on stage and elsewhere,brag about sleeping with little boys and be defended by the likes of Sharpton on national teevee and get paid for such evil preaching…well,it cant happen here…lets go to the ballpark and yell at the athletes never the poli-gangsters.
 
as one of that large group who have opinions unlike your own…its always the agenda to make your group…the controlling element,the establishment,appear to be …sob…in the depised minority…hey …raise your hands first and you get a charming lovable photo of MJackson looking like a girl a white girl…since he was obviously a rascist who hated being black !..name the two all time movies voted on by hollyweird…hint…both movies had to do with guys dressing as women.ie;so called comedies…tick tick tick!!! the poster is correct of course,why would anyone dispute the concept,that a cool guy feeling he is a woman for the day ,must have the right to go into a womens bathroom and sorta…well …you know. More and more,as in nazi germany,its all in reversal…what was always considered normal…is now a hate crime by that certain group…and what was always considered a sickness is now ‘in’ and anyone having different views must be silenced and sent to a re-education center. the inmates run the asylum…one saw that in the constant coverage of the pervert who overdosed…imagine if you will the deadly influence the estabishment has to glorify a loser like MJ…now millions of kids feel they can live that type of lifestyle…drugs,shake the bacon on stage and elsewhere,brag about sleeping with little boys and be defended by the likes of Sharpton on national teevee and get paid for such evil preaching…well,it cant happen here…lets go to the ballpark and yell at the athletes never the poli-gangsters.
Dear Nino,

Please feel free to correct me if I have misinterpreted what I have read: Are you insinuating that I have some manner of 'hidden" agenda? I have no agenda. I am not here to be a spokesperson for anything or force people to accept what I am. I understand that what I have is a psychological and physical condition. I am simply looking for advice and answers from a Catholic perspective so I can continue to stay within the grace of his church. I am not “playing the victim”, in fact the reason I joined this forum was to seek help and advice for the sake of my future spouse (who I haven’t found yet!), because I would hate to have him deal with my burdens, not to mention letting any children we would have (God willing!) suffer in the knowledge that their Mommy has a problem as serious as this! I am offended that you would trivialize this and compare it to Michael Jackson. :eek:
 
I think that as long as your problem is linked with homosexual activism, that you will have a huge hurdle that you don’t need to have in discussing this with those who do not know very much about it.
This may sound cruel - but as a group they’re more charitable to us than those in the Church are. Only about a third of Gays and Lesbians openly revile us, and feel no shame in doing so. Being fair, they make up for their numbers in sheer malice and spite, worse by far than the most Transphobic Bible-Basher. The other two thirds though are quite different: they may not understand, but they understand what it’s like to be reviled and despised themselves.

That a group seen as disordered, destructive and mired in sin is by and large actually more charitable than most Christian congregations, of whatever denomination, I find deeply disturbing. I think it should give everyone pause for thought. It’s certainly made me question my own homophobia. The pun is terrible, but Matthew 17:16 is true: ye shall know them by their Fruits.
 
raise your hands first and you get a charming lovable photo of MJackson looking like a girl a white girl…since he was obviously a rascist who hated being black !
I consider a 14ct gold-lined coffin to be an obscenity.

However, if I may say a word or two about the late Michael Jackson’s medical condition.

You can research for yourself - it’s not well-publicised and little-known, but in several interviews by Mr Jackson and some of his medical team, it was openly admitted that he had two auto-immune diseases, both 4 times more common in African-Americans than Whites.

The first is Vitiligo. This is a condition where the body’s immune system attacks the melanin-producing cells in the skin. In mild conditions, the patient ends up with albino-white spots and blotches. In the usual case, the patient ends up looking piebald, like an apaloosa horse, or if African-American, a Jersey cow. In severe cases though, the patient ends up looking like a Dalmation: ghostly white, with some irregular dark spots.

The best cosmetic result in such a case is to try to even out the irregularity with cosmetics, slightly darkening the ghostly palor, and bleaching the dark areas so they don’t stand out too much.

Sufferers from severe vitiligo get severe sunburn even from reflected sunlight, as do albinos. They wear concealing clothing, gloves, wide-brimmed hats, and dark glasses. They may also have to wear surgical masks, and if visiting the middle east, the most practical clothing resembles a woman’s burqa, with 100% coverage.

Sound familiar?

Another auto-immune disease, often associated with vitilis, is lupus. This devastating condition happens when the body’s auto-immune response attacks its own connective tissues. This is episodic, and can leave the sufferer in agony, with severe joint inflamation so bad they have to be wheeled around in a wheelchair. Chronic cutaneous lupus also attacks the skin, causing lesions which need numerous episodes of plastic surgery to avoid severe disfigurement. The nasal cartilage can collapse, and ears become deformed.

Again, sound familiar?

A typical patient with both lupus and vitilis might look something like this, with complete coverage of all exposed skin:

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/85/68/Michael_Jackson_2.0.0.0x0.432x460.jpeg

A patient with mild vitiligo might look like this:


A patient with moderate to severe viligo - with and without makeup - might look like this:


A patient with severe vitiligo, with some of the makeup having worn off during the workday, might look like this:
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1521/vitiligo17pu.jpg

Since 1986, Mr Jackson had lived a life of increasing pain: unable to tolerate direct or even indirect sunlight, and subject to crippling bouts of agony that required strong painkillers to relieve.

One more thing about lupus - it causes damage to the veins and arteries, causing low density cholesterol plaque to stick and block them. It is very common for lupus sufferers to have asymptomatic heart disease, and suffer sudden cardiac arrest without warning in their 40’s and 50’s.

Again, all these facts are no secret, just not publicised. It didn’t fit the image.
 
I’ve known three people who had either lupus, vitiligo or both conditions.

It’s heartbreaking.
 
I have watched many documentaries and read journals on the topic of transsexualism/transgender disorder. What I know of it, my heart can only break for all those suffering with this, daily. How totally incredible to wake up everyday as a female, and I don’t even think about it. I just take it all for granted. :oMy prayers to anyone who is having to cope with this, and figure out the ‘next steps’ in his/her life.

I will say to you OP, though…when it comes to people’s anger or lashing out at you, if in fact, you have experienced that with this topic, or have read threads that become ‘heated,’ as you say–just always remember this…people often express anger with things they don’t understand. I believe that the Church does have a stance on this, and it’s a very compassionate one. I need to locate some information from the CCC on it, as I thought I read something recently about this.
 
As one who has been attacked by many on some topics…RE; I had a bad stammer…I simply ,by the time I graduated from HS…could not speak one sentence without choking…when going to the store I had to write down what I wanted if it was behind the counter.etc…but,but instead of whining I purchased a tape recorder and it tooks years.some 10 years,bur I learned how to speak correctly and live out my life giving speechs to civic and religious organizations…I also had very bad eyes and since wearing classes,for my ethnic group,was considered a weakness,I would not wear them when I should,so, I found out about contact lenses and ,even tho they were uncomfortable I at least was not called four eyes again…as an Italo-American I had to take grief on the movies portraying us as gangsters…etc etc.so I am hardly upset about such a post as this…I feel for anyone who has problems from the masses…get up off your knees and become a human being…improve your weeknesses,others have it worse then you in many ways and remember,the hall of famer gets up after being knocked down…again and again…probably the worst two names I am called are …a roman catlick and a right winger…this I am proud of and wear this type of hatred with pride like a medal.
 
as one of that large group who have opinions unlike your own…its always the agenda to make your group…the controlling element,the establishment,appear to be …sob…in the depised minority…hey …raise your hands first and you get a charming lovable photo of MJackson looking like a girl a white girl…since he was obviously a rascist who hated being black !..name the two all time movies voted on by hollyweird…hint…both movies had to do with guys dressing as women.ie;so called comedies…tick tick tick!!! the poster is correct of course,why would anyone dispute the concept,that a cool guy feeling he is a woman for the day ,must have the right to go into a womens bathroom and sorta…well …you know. More and more,as in nazi germany,its all in reversal…what was always considered normal…is now a hate crime by that certain group…and what was always considered a sickness is now ‘in’ and anyone having different views must be silenced and sent to a re-education center. the inmates run the asylum…one saw that in the constant coverage of the pervert who overdosed…imagine if you will the deadly influence the estabishment has to glorify a loser like MJ…now millions of kids feel they can live that type of lifestyle…drugs,shake the bacon on stage and elsewhere,brag about sleeping with little boys and be defended by the likes of Sharpton on national teevee and get paid for such evil preaching…well,it cant happen here…lets go to the ballpark and yell at the athletes never the poli-gangsters.
Nino, congratulations on your personal triumph over great difficulty as your post indicated today. Your post indicates you have been the victim time and again of hatred, discrimination, bullying, those who cared only for the hurt they could inflict. How sad that you take the lessons you learned in times past to focus in this post of yours on venting your personal disgust, and dare I say hatred, for situations you perceive as perversions despite medical strides taken to understand better the topic brought to our attention by the OP. Even so, John 15:12 provides “My command is this: love each other as I have loved you.” Although you may persist in your conclusions about this topic, you might lend some bit of charity to those who now suffer.
 
I’ve known three people who had either lupus, vitiligo or both conditions.

It’s heartbreaking.
Amanda,

I’ve read some of your other posts. Please, there are people here who are more than willing to talk to you. You just need to reach out to us.
You’ll be amazed at the love there is here. You just need to disregard all the ignorant ****.

Love,
Rachel
 
Amanda,

I’ve read some of your other posts. Please, there are people here who are more than willing to talk to you. You just need to reach out to us.
You’ll be amazed at the love there is here. You just need to disregard all the ignorant ****.

Love,
Rachel
Amanda, Rachel is right. There are many here who will reach to you in care for you and your situation. I have known personally others afflicted lupus as have you, and it is heartbreaking just as with so many other life struggles; and yes, even your own. Love abounds here, that is why I participate.

Love,
Melissa
 
Magdelaine,

I believe that in order to distance ourselves from the homosexual community, we need to get out from under the TS banner. So a “Transexual Catholic” ministry would receive a lot of unwanted attention.
Also, what would you have Zoe, Steffie, and me do:confused: We are lesbians!!??:o
We’re kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place!!🤷

Rachel
And I am a F-to-M transsexual who likes men…in essence, gay, so I definitly feel for you ladies! 😊

To Rachel and Melissa,

Thank you for your outpouring of true Christian love. It’s friends like you who give me the will to live, even though I am having serious suicidal thoughts.
 
as one of that large group who have opinions unlike your own…its always the agenda to make your group…the controlling element,the establishment,appear to be …sob…in the depised minority…hey …raise your hands first and you get a charming lovable photo of MJackson looking like a girl a white girl…since he was obviously a rascist who hated being black !..name the two all time movies voted on by hollyweird…hint…both movies had to do with guys dressing as women.ie;so called comedies…tick tick tick!!! the poster is correct of course,why would anyone dispute the concept,that a cool guy feeling he is a woman for the day ,must have the right to go into a womens bathroom and sorta…well …you know. More and more,as in nazi germany,its all in reversal…what was always considered normal…is now a hate crime by that certain group…and what was always considered a sickness is now ‘in’ and anyone having different views must be silenced and sent to a re-education center. the inmates run the asylum…one saw that in the constant coverage of the pervert who overdosed…imagine if you will the deadly influence the estabishment has to glorify a loser like MJ…now millions of kids feel they can live that type of lifestyle…drugs,shake the bacon on stage and elsewhere,brag about sleeping with little boys and be defended by the likes of Sharpton on national teevee and get paid for such evil preaching…well,it cant happen here…lets go to the ballpark and yell at the athletes never the poli-gangsters.
What?:confused::confused: Instead of all these wild eyed tangents , why don’t you just adress the point of the thread. Michael Jackson has nothing to do with this thread.🤷
 
Good question. I never see or hear of any hatred toward them. Pity and empathy are far more prevalent responses.
Let’s just say that Ireland is not a hotbed for TS folks. I would say that unless you’re in Dublin, you’re not very apt to run accross a TS person. I would think that most of them have fixed their situation and are stealth, are in Dublin, or have left the country.

Just view a few of Zoe’s posts. In the USA it is easier and more accepted to be gay than it is to be TS.

Rachel
 
Good question. I never see or hear of any hatred toward them. Pity and empathy are far more prevalent responses.
I just about came out of my seat when I read that I’m the OP of this. My premise comes from many years of personal experience and seeing what others like me experience. Are you saying I have seen what Iv’e seen? Are you calling me a liar? I hope not!:mad:
 
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