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byfaithalone
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You have failed miserably to show how I have taken that verse out of context. Please, do tell.
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delsydebothom
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Again, these are metaphors used to describe God’s relationship to different mutable things. That God does not change, however, is an absolute statement; he is immutable, and we must understand the above things in light of his immutability. We ought to realize this the first time we read in the Bible that God “repented” of creating man.
Agree with the first, disagree with the second, agree with the third in a metaphorical sense.
Again, I think Jesus is using the word “good” in a different sense than you are.
He is a good thing. The sort of thing he is is good. He is evil, yes, but only extremely good things can be morally evil. A pebble can’t be morally evil. A tree can’t be morally evil. Even a dog can’t really be morally evil. People can, because people are good things. Satan is an angelic person–a far better kind of person than the human kind–and so he can be, and is, evil beyond human comprehension. But that doesn’t mean he’s ceased being the thing God made, and only goodness can proceed from Goodness Himself.
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Windfish
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byfaithalone, one thing that we cannot say about Satan is that he is absolute evil. This would create more problems than you think. For one, it would mean that God created evil, which He cannot do. Second, it would result in a manichean view of two opposing gods, one that is absolutely evil and one that is absolutely good. I don’t have to tell you that this is a problem. So, insofar as God creates things that are only good, and insofar the devil is a creature of God and was once in grace, we can say that the devil is not absolutely evil. I wouldn’t go so far as delsydebothom, though, and attribute him any kind of good, but I can see he is reasoning. Maybe he can elaborate.
Now, as for Jesus saying only God is good, this is true. Again, though, God creates things that are only good, and that goodness reflects his goodness, as the Scriptures say. It is interesting to note, though, that this was not at all the context in which Jesus was speaking. The Jews were calling him a “good teacher” and “good rabbi,” and Jesus was being very intelligent and coy when said that only God is good. He was trying to tell them then and there, “See, you call me good, but only God is really good. But I am good, therefore, I am God!”
I think you’re also missing the high-philosophy and theology when delsydebothom says that God does not have emotions, at least not in the sense that we think of them.
Now, as for Jesus saying only God is good, this is true. Again, though, God creates things that are only good, and that goodness reflects his goodness, as the Scriptures say. It is interesting to note, though, that this was not at all the context in which Jesus was speaking. The Jews were calling him a “good teacher” and “good rabbi,” and Jesus was being very intelligent and coy when said that only God is good. He was trying to tell them then and there, “See, you call me good, but only God is really good. But I am good, therefore, I am God!”
I think you’re also missing the high-philosophy and theology when delsydebothom says that God does not have emotions, at least not in the sense that we think of them.
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Michael_Francis
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Please remain on topic and report derailing posters earlier from now on. 
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ILOVEGOD1970
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Hi Everyone!!! A friend told me to watch the Priest’s face during this time before Communion as it changes to be more Christ-like - so beautiful!!! I watched these two certain Priests at two separate times and their faces had this angelic, darling look and a candle-lit glow about them - just beautiful!!! A spiritual change was definitely taking place, folks!
As far as the ingredients and molecular changes in the host being visible to the human eye - no that is not possible. The ingredients and molecules would be the same before and after Transubstatiation - PHYSICALLY! But SPIRITUALLY the ingredients are totally altered into the Body and Blood of our CHRIST!
There are many beautiful, spiritual changes taking place every second of our existence that cannot be seen by the human eye or explained scientifically!!! Only the HOLY SPIRIT can explain these things to us if we would just listen please!!!
As far as the ingredients and molecular changes in the host being visible to the human eye - no that is not possible. The ingredients and molecules would be the same before and after Transubstatiation - PHYSICALLY! But SPIRITUALLY the ingredients are totally altered into the Body and Blood of our CHRIST!
There are many beautiful, spiritual changes taking place every second of our existence that cannot be seen by the human eye or explained scientifically!!! Only the HOLY SPIRIT can explain these things to us if we would just listen please!!!
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pat23tau
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Amazing! This is an amazing and great 9-minute video worth watching.
This is very interesting. I don’t feel that the Lord intended us to need proof, our faith should suffice, but this is amazing!
Please watch this video and pass it on! It proves the Real Presence in the Most Holy Eucharist. It is only nine minutes, and you will be SO glad you watched it.
It is in Spanish, but has subtitles.
“Eucharistic Miracle in Buenos Aries”
Here is a link to a video of a scientist describing the miracle: cntrl key and click on link
www… . youtube.com/ watch?v=qbg_ dhI4XCs
This is very interesting. I don’t feel that the Lord intended us to need proof, our faith should suffice, but this is amazing!
Please watch this video and pass it on! It proves the Real Presence in the Most Holy Eucharist. It is only nine minutes, and you will be SO glad you watched it.
It is in Spanish, but has subtitles.
“Eucharistic Miracle in Buenos Aries”
Here is a link to a video of a scientist describing the miracle: cntrl key and click on link
www… . youtube.com/ watch?v=qbg_ dhI4XCs
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joannazenobia
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In very simple terms, what really changes is your heart. That is proof of Christ’s presence during transubstantiation. Jesus whole mission is to change the hearts of the people. Your heart, meaning your ability to love and be loved by others, is not something tangible you can see, like the heart that pumps blood. It is invisible. You won’t find it under a microscope. You have an invisible spirit, soul, meaning a heart that you can’t see. Your emotions, feelings are invisible you can’t see them but you can feel them.
Through prayers, especially DAILY Mass, frequent weekly/monthly confessions, prayers, adoration, over time, people will notice profound changes in you. That is how you know the Eucharist is working. That’s not to say that non-catholics cannot experience the same miracle in their lives, how Christ transforms their hearts. We don’t truly know how he works. We know he IS present in non-christiants too and he sanctifies non Christian Religions as well as Christians, we see the fruit of peace and love that grows from true devotion to whatever religion faith God has called in other holy non-christian people.
For Catholics, Jesus wants to open our eyes, so we can learn to see him in all people.
You have to pray…a lot, and spend time in adoration to truly get passed the disbelief of the Eucharist especially when you committed a grave sin like abortion (me). I have connected to St. Paul in ACTS in a profound way because he too confessed that his road to holiness would be much more difficult than the Apostles because of his past sins. Tha’ts why frequent confessions are critical. For some people, faith of the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist comes really easy. For some it is hard. But the more you sin, the harder it will be without confession. You have to learn about him through reading scripture, and learn how to fall in love with him and his blessed Mother. You have to ask for those whose prayers are much, much more powerful than yours to help you get passed the disbelief, aka Blessed Mother, she will absolutely explain it, “It is as if he is just behind a closed door.” Meaning, you can FEEL his presence though you can’t see it except under the guise of bread. Feeling Christ presence takes a lot of practice, confession, daily mass, prayers, etc. It will happen, though it may take a long time. You have to be patient and persevere in prayer just as Jesus says in the Gospels.
Simply put, just pray, talk to him, and tell him your difficulties in matters of faith. What I have learned, when you ask God in prayer to help you in matters of faith, he seems to be more anxious to answer those prayers.
one more thing, confessing to God that you don’t believe really helps. For Catholics, although it is not required, but it really helps if they go to confession and confess that they don’t believe in the Eucharist, Jesus is present in the confessional and he will heal you like he healed all those in Galilee, but only if you come to him with a sincere heart.
Through prayers, especially DAILY Mass, frequent weekly/monthly confessions, prayers, adoration, over time, people will notice profound changes in you. That is how you know the Eucharist is working. That’s not to say that non-catholics cannot experience the same miracle in their lives, how Christ transforms their hearts. We don’t truly know how he works. We know he IS present in non-christiants too and he sanctifies non Christian Religions as well as Christians, we see the fruit of peace and love that grows from true devotion to whatever religion faith God has called in other holy non-christian people.
For Catholics, Jesus wants to open our eyes, so we can learn to see him in all people.
You have to pray…a lot, and spend time in adoration to truly get passed the disbelief of the Eucharist especially when you committed a grave sin like abortion (me). I have connected to St. Paul in ACTS in a profound way because he too confessed that his road to holiness would be much more difficult than the Apostles because of his past sins. Tha’ts why frequent confessions are critical. For some people, faith of the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist comes really easy. For some it is hard. But the more you sin, the harder it will be without confession. You have to learn about him through reading scripture, and learn how to fall in love with him and his blessed Mother. You have to ask for those whose prayers are much, much more powerful than yours to help you get passed the disbelief, aka Blessed Mother, she will absolutely explain it, “It is as if he is just behind a closed door.” Meaning, you can FEEL his presence though you can’t see it except under the guise of bread. Feeling Christ presence takes a lot of practice, confession, daily mass, prayers, etc. It will happen, though it may take a long time. You have to be patient and persevere in prayer just as Jesus says in the Gospels.
Simply put, just pray, talk to him, and tell him your difficulties in matters of faith. What I have learned, when you ask God in prayer to help you in matters of faith, he seems to be more anxious to answer those prayers.
one more thing, confessing to God that you don’t believe really helps. For Catholics, although it is not required, but it really helps if they go to confession and confess that they don’t believe in the Eucharist, Jesus is present in the confessional and he will heal you like he healed all those in Galilee, but only if you come to him with a sincere heart.
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bobregan
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“Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.”In very simple terms, what really changes is your heart. That is proof of Christ’s presence during transubstantiation. Jesus whole mission is to change the hearts of the people. Your heart, meaning your ability to love and be loved by others, is not something tangible you can see, like the heart that pumps blood. It is invisible. You won’t find it under a microscope. You have an invisible spirit, soul, meaning a heart that you can’t see. Your emotions, feelings are invisible you can’t see them but you can feel them.
Through prayers, especially DAILY Mass, frequent weekly/monthly confessions, prayers, adoration, over time, people will notice profound changes in you. That is how you know the Eucharist is working. That’s not to say that non-catholics cannot experience the same miracle in their lives, how Christ transforms their hearts. We don’t truly know how he works. We know he IS present in non-christiants too and he sanctifies non Christian Religions as well as Christians, we see the fruit of peace and love that grows from true devotion to whatever religion faith God has called in other holy non-christian people.
For Catholics, Jesus wants to open our eyes, so we can learn to see him in all people.
You have to pray…a lot, and spend time in adoration to truly get passed the disbelief of the Eucharist especially when you committed a grave sin like abortion (me). I have connected to St. Paul in ACTS in a profound way because he too confessed that his road to holiness would be much more difficult than the Apostles because of his past sins. Tha’ts why frequent confessions are critical. For some people, faith of the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist comes really easy. For some it is hard. But the more you sin, the harder it will be without confession. You have to learn about him through reading scripture, and learn how to fall in love with him and his blessed Mother. You have to ask for those whose prayers are much, much more powerful than yours to help you get passed the disbelief, aka Blessed Mother, she will absolutely explain it, “It is as if he is just behind a closed door.” Meaning, you can FEEL his presence though you can’t see it except under the guise of bread. Feeling Christ presence takes a lot of practice, confession, daily mass, prayers, etc. It will happen, though it may take a long time. You have to be patient and persevere in prayer just as Jesus says in the Gospels.
Simply put, just pray, talk to him, and tell him your difficulties in matters of faith. What I have learned, when you ask God in prayer to help you in matters of faith, he seems to be more anxious to answer those prayers.
one more thing, confessing to God that you don’t believe really helps. For Catholics, although it is not required, but it really helps if they go to confession and confess that they don’t believe in the Eucharist, Jesus is present in the confessional and he will heal you like he healed all those in Galilee, but only if you come to him with a sincere heart.
God bless!
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