Are you familiar with the Catholic doctrines (plural intended) on Original Sin which include the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil? How would you explain Adam’s human nature with clothes or without clothes?
Adam’s and Eve’s human nature without clothes would seem to be sexual. Although this first husband and wife were intimate before the Fall. They were told, as well as the animals, to “be fruitful and multiply,” and that can’t be done without intimacy. But I take the “their eyes were opened to them” to mean they didn’t know everything God did, as the snake had promised Eve. I instead see it as that Adam and Eve must have felt, not only ashamed of their nakedness, but their disobedience as well, and possibly even disappointed that all the forbidden fruit left them with was a bad taste in their mouth, so to speak. In answer to your first question; I think I’m well familiar
Although I must not be, to have started this thread. Sometimes, it’s about interpretation. We know we know what we’ve been taught… sometimes it’s just that our interpretations can be differing.What they lost was their innocence, that quality Jesus finds in children that allows them to stand before God in simple love and faith uninhibited by the knowledge of the gulf that exists between God and us.
I remember our professor told us that eating here has a special significance; it symbolizes the appetite. The sin here was more than the sin of pride; it was the sin of letting appetite (for being like God, obviously) overrule obedience to God’s command. I also remember raising this points to the question “What sins most resemble Adam and Eve’s sin”: Situations where we attempt to be in control of the natural law such as allowing gay marriage and transgender and other “trans” identities are very much like their sin because we are attempting to overthrow God and natural law with our will.
May I offer this suggestion.I remember our professor told us that eating here has a special significance; it symbolizes the appetite. The sin here was more than the sin of pride; it was the sin of letting appetite (for being like God, obviously) overrule obedience to God’s command. I also remember raising this points to the question “What sins most resemble Adam and Eve’s sin”: Situations where we attempt to be in control of the natural law such as allowing gay marriage and transgender and other “trans” identities are very much like their sin because we are attempting to overthrow God and natural law with our will.
I hope I don’t get blasted for the points I raised here. It seems I’ve chosen very controversial topics to make a point
Thanks for this! I will also look at “Theology of the Body”, as suggested by other posters
This is what I posted in that thread. It is apparent that some, not all, people have no clue about the real Catholic teachings which flow from the first three chapters of Genesis. How sad.Thought I’d link to this thread to further this discussion. It’s quite sad that the discussion became rather heated toward the end
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=972258
Thanks. Pope John Paul II’s words (and the author’s explanatory sentence after) are so good that they deserve to be quoted and posted as part of the thread.
They became aware of evil, the most basic of which is spiritual separation from God. And, by contrast, they would come to know good, a concept previously unnecessary and irrelevant because everything, in their experience, had been good. Now they would exist in a state of raw self-consciousness, ashamed of the sin they had committed and the consequences it had resulted in; they wanted to hide, which they did. We’re all in hiding, to one degree or another, from God and the truth of who He created us to be. This is why the catechism teaches that man is divided even within himself as a result of the Fall.
Pardon me.
Pardon me, sounds like you’re presuming/imagining a fair bit here. They knew good, as it was the only thing they’d experienced up til then, but couldn’t distinguish the two-good and evil, as separate, identifiable realities simply because they had never experienced evil. Had they trusted God, they never would experience it; they never would have entered the pigsty of life apart in some manner from their Creator.
Genesis 2: 15-17
Exactly. They wouldn’t know good and evil until eating of the fruit of the tree, confirmed by Gen 3:22: "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil."