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This may be an issue or maybe not but I would like some advice. We have a food pantry at our church and it us usually the same families that come, but they rarely if ever come to service. I know it shouldnt bother me because we are helping others, but it does, because it feels like they are using the Church because they know we will help. Am I wrong for feeling this way? If so, pray for me! Thanks!!
 
This may be an issue or maybe not but I would like some advice. We have a food pantry at our church and it us usually the same families that come, but they rarely if ever come to service. I know it shouldnt bother me because we are helping others, but it does, because it feels like they are using the Church because they know we will help. Am I wrong for feeling this way? If so, pray for me! Thanks!!
What do you mean by come to service?
 
t68ware, one is indeed tempted to see a modern reenactment of Jesus’ comment on people coming only for the fish and loaves. But I guess Xtian giving isn’t with strings attached (although there’s also the argument of the deserving poor vs. those who’re just lazy, ornery or doped/boozed up).
 
Even the lazy, ornery, doped, and boozed deserve to eat. So do their children. There is no argument, there, in Christianity.
 
Most of the people who come to our food pantry aren’t even Catholic, let alone come to Mass. The purpose of the food pantry is to provide food to people who need it, no questions are asked or expectations placed on them.

This past year the demand was unusually high with the high unemployment and they actually ran out of food a few times. They brought it to our attention at the Masses and people have been very generous in responding since. They put paper bags in the gathering space and people take them home and fill them and bring them back. Makes it easy to remember to bring food.
 
This may be an issue or maybe not but I would like some advice. We have a food pantry at our church and it us usually the same families that come, but they rarely if ever come to service. I know it shouldnt bother me because we are helping others, but it does, because it feels like they are using the Church because they know we will help. Am I wrong for feeling this way? If so, pray for me! Thanks!!
If they will not accept your tribe then they cannot exist in your church, you haven’t said anything, other than, that the church you attend does not require an oath of service or attendance to recieve the benefits of a “church member”. You should speak to someone about your churches policy, they may be getting tax credits or something for providing that service towards their operating expenses, all principalities are set up differently
 
=t68ware;7396817]This may be an issue or maybe not but I would like some advice. We have a food pantry at our church and it us usually the same families that come, but they rarely if ever come to service. I know it shouldnt bother me because we are helping others, but it does, because it feels like they are using the Church because they know we will help. Am I wrong for feeling this way? If so, pray for me! Thanks!!
***That is a DEFINITE MAYBE!

Why not invite them to Mass?

IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE in your knowlwdge of our Catholic Faith, ask them kindly if they have anyquestions you might be able to answer for them about the CC. **We SURE DO appreciate all the help you give to us!***BUT even if they decline [DON"T PUSH!] ; they are doing God’s WORK. And that’s a GREAT start.

Pray for them!

God Bless,
Pat**
 
This may be an issue or maybe not but I would like some advice. We have a food pantry at our church and it us usually the same families that come, but they rarely if ever come to service. I know it shouldnt bother me because we are helping others, but it does, because it feels like they are using the Church because they know we will help. Am I wrong for feeling this way? If so, pray for me! Thanks!!
The idea of Charity is to give. Read Matthew 25 : 31 - 46 and contermplate the message.
 
This may be an issue or maybe not but I would like some advice. We have a food pantry at our church and it us usually the same families that come, but they rarely if ever come to service. I know it shouldnt bother me because we are helping others, but it does, because it feels like they are using the Church because they know we will help. Am I wrong for feeling this way? If so, pray for me! Thanks!!
If your parish is giving them food with the intent or expectation that they attend your church, then you may not be wrong for feeling that way.

If your parish is simply performing a corporal work of mercy, then I will pray for you.
 
=Vince1022;7406363]If your parish is giving them food with the intent or expectation that they attend your church, then you may not be wrong for feeling that way.
If your parish is simply performing a corporal work of mercy, then I will pray for you.
If this parish is handing out food to the needy as an inticement to enter the Church; they are misdirected. Conversions, granting of Faith and the graces that go with it are GOD’s pervue, not ours.

We are to know, love and live our faith; share it FULLY and truthfully at every God given opportunity, and then leave it in God’s hands through prayer.

God bless,
Pat
 
I do not think that the OP is out of line for thinking that those who freely receive should have some sort of “obligation” to offer a return in some way. Obviously, expecting a cash payment is over the line, but I do believe that if one receives help or support from an organization then they should, in the best way that the they can, do something as a return payment.

The fact is that there are many in the world who will use and take advantage of a service or charity with no regard of gratitude until they are either cut off or the service is ended, and then move on to the next one.

Remember, when Christ cured the 10 lepers, only 1 came back to offer gratitude. Christ Himself asked, “where are the other 9?”
 
I do not think that the OP is out of line for thinking that those who freely receive should have some sort of “obligation” to offer a return in some way. Obviously, expecting a cash payment is over the line, but I do believe that if one receives help or support from an organization then they should, in the best way that the they can, do something as a return payment.

The fact is that there are many in the world who will use and take advantage of a service or charity with no regard of gratitude until they are either cut off or the service is ended, and then move on to the next one.

Remember, when Christ cured the 10 lepers, only 1 came back to offer gratitude. Christ Himself asked, “where are the other 9?”
Yes, but Christ didn’t condemn the other 9, right?
 
That those people do not attend mass out of gratitude is really no fault!
Food is nothing to be exchanged for fluffing up our mass attendance. If someone attends out of false reasons, he could as well stay home, apart from the possibility to hear the gospel, but the gospel can be brought to them anyway.
Why not lay out some leaflets where the pantry is, with the offer that anybody who wants to know more about the faith is invited for mass, prayers and talks?
To pretend to have religious sentiments when you do not is no appropriate way of expressing gratitude.

I agree with the sentiment others expressed before: Charity means per se that nothing is expected in return, only thankfulness, or not even that. Otherwise, it would be a loan.

I think that we stirr up much more interest if we are charitable with a loving heart WITHOUT stuffing our believes down other peoples’ throats, no matter if they want it or not, while not hiding it, either. Who hasn’t been annoyed with “missionaries” from some evangelical comunities who won’t listen and won’t leave?

But one point I’d like to bring up is: We are commanded to love our neighbour, but some people are closer to us than others, so it is natural to care for them first. It wouldn’t be right to let your own child stare in order to fund a child in Africa, so I’d say it wouldn’t be right for a Catholic parish to let members starve in order to give to others first, but this doesn’t seem to be the case here, as the pantry is open for everybody.
 
Even the lazy, ornery, doped, and boozed deserve to eat. So do their children. There is no argument, there, in Christianity.
2 Thessalonians 3:10
For also when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.
 
No one is saying that we should condemn* anyone*. Yet, Christ did, in fact, ask about the other 9. I think that that speaks volumes.
Right, the fact that Christ did not condemn them, but asked about them, speaks volumes.
 
This may be an issue or maybe not but I would like some advice. We have a food pantry at our church and it us usually the same families that come, but they rarely if ever come to service. I know it shouldnt bother me because we are helping others, but it does, because it feels like they are using the Church because they know we will help. Am I wrong for feeling this way? If so, pray for me! Thanks!!
Are you still participating on this thread?
 
It is only God who is able to convert people, and sometimes this process takes place over an extended period of time. We may end up being an instrument in the "conversion’ but it sometimes takes great patience for us to be an effective instrument.

The Catholic Church actually says each of our own lives on earth is a continual call to conversion . We need to give God room to work ; and this , over time. Personally, I think mention in a previous post of placing pamphlets nearby is a good idea which might bear fruit. In the meantime, I believe focus (according to what we read in scripture) needs to be more on ***how we give *rather than how they receive.

Matthew 5:43-48

You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’

But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you,

that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust.

For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors do the same?

And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same?

So you are to be perfect, just as your heavenly Father is perfect.

James 2:14-16

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?

If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day,

and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?
 
This may be an issue or maybe not but I would like some advice. We have a food pantry at our church and it us usually the same families that come, but they rarely if ever come to service. I know it shouldnt bother me because we are helping others, but it does, because it feels like they are using the Church because they know we will help. Am I wrong for feeling this way? If so, pray for me! Thanks!!
what is the purpose of the food pantry? is it to serve active parishioners only? in that case your resentment has a basis even if not particularly charitable. Is it so serve all those in need within your parish boundaries, Catholic or not? if so making attendance at any liturgical functions a contingency of receiving help is simply wrong, and if the pantry is affiliated with your local Food Bank organization, probably against their rules.

As OP has abandoned the thread perhaps no other discussion is necessary or helpful. The quote from Thess. refers to church members specifically.
 
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