Trinity Poll

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Do you believe that the Father and the Son are Distinct, unseperable and One? Or do you believe that the Father and the Son are not distinct, but unseperable and One? Please note that the only difference between the first two choices are either “distinct” or “not distinct”, but both choices include that the two are inseperable and One.
 
O said other. No one so far has completely explained the Trinity. It will be the one mystery that we will not completely understand until we get to heaven (if then).

PF
 
It was explained to me that one needs to fully in every single aspect with no doubt what so ever believe all aspects of the trinity as understood by the group. Any varriation what so ever would mean eternal damnation with no possiblity of repentance. Of course that went for every other doctrine as well. A bit harsh I think.

What I think now is the Trinity is a mystery, I dont fully understand it, but I do believe it. If that makes any sense.
 
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What I think now is the Trinity is a mystery, I dont fully understand it, but I do believe it. If that makes any sense.
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I absolutely agree. The Trinity is a mystery which human words are incapable of fully explaining. To be fully orthodox one needs to parse their words carefully on this touchy subject, and it is extremely easy to make a mistake. For this reason I think it’s important that we be somewhat uncritical of ordinary people’s thoughts on Trinitarian theology.
 
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What I think now is the Trinity is a mystery, I dont fully understand it, but I do believe it. If that makes any sense.
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Yes, absolutely right. And it is still slowly being revealed to the Church. That is why i think some modern arianist dont believe in this mystery because they are too eager to immediately solve this mystery themselves.
 
Since this post does not discuss a non-Cathoic religion, I’m wondering what it’s doing in this section. Shouldn’t it be under “Apologetics”?
 
The Father, Son, and Spirit are distinct in Person, but One in Nature.
 
Since the main meaning of distinct is to be separate, I’m sure you must mean a specific type of distinct and a specific type of inseparable in the poll, and I don’t know what you have in mind.
 
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Since the main meaning of distinct is to be separate, I’m sure you must mean a specific type of distinct and a specific type of inseparable in the poll, and I don’t know what you have in mind.
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Hey Pug: A Father and Son can be inseperable and distinct. I believe the Father and the Son are both distinct and inseperable and have a different view of the Trinity that I didn’t want to share on this thread because I have become aware of how this is so such a sacred subject to the Catholic Community.

On another thread I believe I read someone saying that the Father and Son were not distinct beings and thats why I started the poll but will admit that I was surprised that there has not been any responses that they are not distinct. It does prove to me that perhaps it is not the accepted view that the Father and the Son are not distinct, which is what I have always believed they are distinct, in union and in agreement. My view is a bit different in that I do believe Jesus wanted us to praise his Father through him. take care, tom
 
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briand:
It was explained to me that one needs to fully in every single aspect with no doubt what so ever believe all aspects of the trinity as understood by the group. Any varriation what so ever would mean eternal damnation with no possiblity of repentance.
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You are making that up. Why do you do this?
 
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Hey Pug: A Father and Son can be inseperable and distinct.
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Yes, any mother hopes this is so!😃
a sacred subject to the Catholic Community.
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It is a topic that is important to Christians, usually considered central, and can be touchy, indeed!
It does prove to me that perhaps it is not the accepted view that the Father and the Son are not distinct
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I think most Catholics will say that God is rather a bit of a mystery to us, his nature being beyond our full comprehension. The topic of Trinity is about what God is like inside, and so is plagued by some confusion in the average person’s (I include myself) mind.

Most Christians that I know definitely view Father, Son, and HS as somehow distinct. An example of this would be to say that the second person of the Trinity took on a human nature, but the other two persons didn’t. A statement like that would be impossible if there were not some type of distinction held in a Christian’s mind.
 
The doctrine of trinitarian dogma is that The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct from each other and exist in relation to each other and that they are all one God (each one of them is God wholly and in God’s entirety, not just a part of God).

The mystery is not what the trinity is, but how such a thing can be. Knowing a little metaphysics, I don’t find the idea to really be that Earth shattering, I do think that none of use will truly understand it until the next life. We’re stuck in our mortal world of physical dimensions and clear separation between us and everything else (in our perceptions at least). Once we move on, things will be clearer.
 
I voted for the second one. I believe the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, is the Soul, Body and Spirit of Jesus Christ. Every person has a soul, body and spirit, which is one person, as in

1 Thessalonians 5:23 “And may the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord.

SpiritualBeing
 

I voted for “Other”, because the word “One” could refer to anything.​

Besides, God is “Wholly Other” 🙂 ##
 
hi, just share my ideas, im just simple catholic

MATHEW 28:19 " in the NAME OF THE Father, and OF THE Son, and OF THE Holy Spirit."

NATURE----the substance, nature
BEING—anything that exists
PERSONS— being that has INTELLECT and WILL (example:
Angels,Man, God)

NAME----ONE NATURE/ SUBSTANCE
OF THE ---- DISTINCT
FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT----- 3 PERSONS

1 PERSON + 1 PERSON + 1 PERSON == 3GODS IS WRONG
CANNOT ADD PERSON AND ANSWER NATUREN ( GOD )

1PERSON+1 PERSON +1 PERSON === 3 PERSONS correct

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This is my first reply on these boards so bear with me… 😃

The way the Trinity was described to me is this…

I am going to use the U.S. as an example as that is where I am from…

Because I live in the U.S. I am considered American as is everyone else who lives here. Yet I am a distinctly different person than my neighbor. So when someone from outside the U.S. wants to talk about the people here in this country they say ‘those Americans’ rather than naming each and every person who make up this country. This is how I view the Trinity. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are in one category yet three distinctly separate entities.

I don’t know if I made any sense… hehe

But in any case… Hello from Washington and I am glad to be here!!! 😛
 
How can there be three Divine person, when God the Creator said these words in the OT: Is there a God besides Me? and a Rock? I know not any (Isa. 44:8).

Who is God save Jehovah? and who is a Rock save our God? (Ps. 18:31).

Have not I Jehovah? and there is no God else besides Me, a just God and a Savior, there is none besides Me. Look unto Me that ye may be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else (Isa. 45:21, 22).

I am Jehovah, and besides Me there is no Savior (Isa. 43:11).

I am Jehovah thy God, and thou shalt acknowledge no God but Me; for there is no Savior besides Me (Hos. 13:4).

Thus saith Jehovah the King of Israel, and his Redeemer Jehovah of Armies, I am the First and I am the Last, and besides Me there is no God (Isa.44:6).

I Jehovah will give thee for a covenant to the people, for a light of the nations. I am Jehovah, that is My name, and My glory will I not give to another (Isa. 42:6, 8).

William 🙂
 
Hello Spiritual Being…you and Tommy should get along smashingly
 
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I hear you talking about me. Remember, “one” true God. Or did we hear “three Gods” all wrapped in one as a big mystery. Leave it up to a council of men to decide which is right???
 
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