Triple Cross Gesture Before the Gospel Reading

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This may be a shallow question but I need some clarification. I grew up signing myself with the cross on the forehead, lips, and chest simultaneously with the response ‘Gloria tibi, Domine’ before the Gospel Reading. Everyone else does it the same way. I was even taught this during my religious ed class in elementary school.

However, I have been attending the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite for more than a year and have noticed that the people sign themselves together with the priest when he says ‘Sequentia sancti evangelii secundum…’ and not during the ‘Gloria tibi, Domine.’ I thought to myself that maybe this was just a difference due to the reform. However, I noticed that during Papal Masses (which are in the Ordinary Form), the Pope, bishops, priests, and the faithful, sign themselves during the “Sequentia sancti evangelii secundum…” Furthermore, when I tried to research, I found the following in the GIRM:
  1. At the ambo, the Priest opens the book and, with hands joined, says, The Lord be with you, to which the people reply, And with your spirit. Then he says, A reading from the holy Gospel, making the Sign of the Cross with his thumb on the book and on his forehead, mouth, and breast, which everyone else does as well. The people acclaim, Glory to you, O Lord. The Priest incenses the book, if incense is being used (cf. nos. 276-277). Then he proclaims the Gospel and at the end pronounces the acclamation The Gospel of the Lord, to which all reply, Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ. The Priest kisses the book, saying quietly the formula Per evangelica dicta (Through the words of the Gospel).
I think this means it must be done during the “Sequentia sancti evangelii secundum…” and not in the “Gloria tibi, Domine…” But I’m not sure. So which one is it? Which is faithful to the rubrics? I know it is not important but I am interested in these details of the liturgy.
 
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Then he says, A reading from the holy Gospel, making the Sign of the Cross with his thumb on the book and on his forehead, mouth, and breast, which everyone else does as well. The people acclaim, Glory to you, O Lord.
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this is exactly how we do this in the Masses I attend with various Priests and Bishops and Superiors.

whats confusing you
 
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Well, in all of the parishes and dioceses that I have been to, we do it not during the “Sequentia sancti evangelii…” Rather, the faithful simultaneously do it with the response of “Gloria tibi, Domine.”

So are you saying that in your country, you sign yourself when the priest say “Sequentia sancti evangelii…” and not during “Glora tibi, Domine?”
 
can you use english rather then latin. i attend mass in the vernacular. do you mean the masses you attend dont follow the GIRM you pasted
 
what country are you in? could itbe that the congregation is a little slow in following the Priest. or doing this and saying Glory to you oh Lord at the same time
 
Sorry. I am not good in English that’s why I use the Latin. lol. That is my question though. Are we not being strictly faithful with the rubrics? Because it would seem that we are not, based on how I understand the GIRM ,and based on the Papal Masses and Extraordinary Form.

Also, no, it is not because the congregation is slow. I grew up (and mostly everyone else) with the notion that the gesture is to be done simultaneously with “Glory to you, Lord”

Again, I understand this is not really important but I would just like to know.
 
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do you have scruples or OCD? i think you are concerned with timing. its a hard thing to get perfectly timed. dont watch others, just the Priest perhaps, time with him.
 
No. It’s not about getting the “perfect timing” by whatever definition of that is. It is a question of when to do it. Should it be done during the “A reading from the holy Gospel…” or during the “Glory to you, O Lord.”

Again, I know it does not matter in the greater scheme of things. The significance as to when is of little consequence. I am just asking in the spirit of clarification.
 
let pianistclare clear this up a bit better. she has lots of DRE under her belt
 
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Gloria tibi, Domine
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ORDO MISSAEORDINARY OF THE MASS
All stand for the Holy Gospel
S. Et cum spiritu tuo.S. And with your spirit.
P/D. + Sequentia (or Initium) sancti Evangelii secundum N.P/D. + A continuation of the holy Gospel according to St. (name).
The Gospel Book is Incensed.
S. Gloria tibi, Domine.S. Glory to you, O Lord.
 
Yes. FYI: nobody around here says “A continuation of”

They simply say: A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Saint Luke.
 
Where’s Don Ruggerio when you need him? Since he’s always making a big deal about Americans and the rubrics…
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