True or False about the Pope

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I think bible.ca is one of the most scariest sites on the internet.
 
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b_justb:
I think bible.ca is one of the most scariest sites on the internet.
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That, sir, is because it is a Church of Christ website.

As to the original post, I’ll agree with CatholicCorno; the arguments are broad, and need be narrowed, if you want proper answers.
 
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CatholicCorno:
What point are you wanting to argue?
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Hi
I’m not wanting to argue any point. This site just makes alot of point of interest about the pope and what the Catholic church believes. I was asking what you thought about the things they
say, after you have read them.
Thanks
 
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NonDenom:
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I’m not wanting to argue any point. This site just makes alot of point of interest about the pope and what the Catholic church believes. I was asking what you thought about the things they
say, after you have read them.
Thanks
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It’s healthy for us Catholics to defend the faith, but you need to focus on something. Otherwise, I’m stuck saying something overly broad, like “the website proclaims false teachings”.
 
Sgt Sweaters:
That, sir, is because it is a Church of Christ website.

As to the original post, I’ll agree with CatholicCorno; the arguments are broad, and need be narrowed, if you want proper answers.
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Are they really Church of Christ? Like officially? Or do you mean it says all the things COC would say? I’ve spent a LOT of time there and got the impression it was just some non-denom church somewhere.

And yeah, it is one of the most anti-Catholic sites I know of. Not so much in the “all Catholics are going to Hell” sortof way that a lot of them can be, but just in terms of what it says and the volume of it.

It’s also one of the most poorly put together. Almost all of the anti-Catholic stuff is sad, circular, and easy to deal with.
 
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NonDenom:
They seem to have some very good points, and can back it up with scripture.
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2 Peter 3:16, “His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.”

A lot of things can be “backed up with Scripture” (that is why there are over 30,000 protestant demoninations) but is their exegesis correct?
 
** Are they really Church of Christ? **For what it’s worth - I’ve looked at that website in the past, followed through some of their links, and always had the impression it was Church of Christ.
 
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NonDenom:
Hi All
I ran across this site and wanted to know what you think about what it says. They seem to have some very good points, and can back it up with scripture.
Thanks.

bible.ca/cath-peter=pope.htm
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I suggest that instead of reading anti-Catholic material by people who are know nothings, you should read instead: Catholicism and Fundamentalism: The Attack on “Romanism” by “Bible Christians” by Karl Keating if you want to understand why people make these sorts of false claims about the Catholic Church.
 
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NonDenom:
Hi All
I ran across this site and wanted to know what you think about what it says. They seem to have some very good points, and can back it up with scripture.
Thanks.

bible.ca/cath-peter=pope.htm
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Oh yeah, well I ran across *this * site and wanted to know what *you * think about what it says. They *also * seem to have some very good points, and can back it up with scripture. 😃

Vatican

P.S. The above is sarcasm. All kidding aside, I think you need to be a bit more specific with your question.
 
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NonDenom:
Hi
I’m not wanting to argue any point. This site just makes alot of point of interest about the pope and what the Catholic church believes. I was asking what you thought about the things they
say, after you have read them.
Thanks
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This website several typical misunderstandings that protestants have regarding infallibility and the Papal office. I also think that some common mistakes that are made by protestants are made here. For instance, one thing that I notice a lot of, being all of my in-laws are Baptist or NonDenominational (which is just a code word for Assemblies of God), is that they tend to use Pauls writings over Jesus’ own words. Peter of course warns us about how the ignorant will twist Pauls words to their own destruction. This website writes

James Cardinal Gibbons, a Catholic Archbishop said, “Jesus our Lord, founded but one Church, which He was pleased to build on Peter. Therefore, any church that does not recognize Peter as its foundation stone is not the Church of Christ, and therefore cannot stand, for it is not the work of God.” (The Faith of Our Fathers, p. 82). The apostle Paul said, “For other foundation no one can lay, but that which has been laid, which is Christ Jesus” (1 Cor. 3:11). There is no other foundation but Christ! Therefore, any church which does not recognize Christ alone as the foundation stone cannot be the church of Christ.

This is a perfect example. Paul is correct in proclaiming Jesus the foundation of our faith. When we read the whole passage that is quoted from Corinthians we see that Paul is talking about Christ being the foundation of our faith. The good Cardinal is speaking of Peter as foundation of the Church that Christ established. There is a big difference here.

And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. 14 Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
MATT 16: 18 - 19

Another case of protestants taking verses completely out of context and intentionally only quoting parts of a passage in order to make the passage agree with them.So, what are to do: take Pauls words and ignore Christs words or take Christs words and Pauls words both in proper context. When we do, they do not conflict with one another. Jesus is talking about His Church and He gave Peter the Keys and Authority, and Paul is talking about Christ as foundation of our faith.
 
Most Catholics on this site have seen this site you liked to or ones similar. It does take a little bit of work to answer the many different points put out by this and other sites.

As proof of some of his assertions he takes quotes from different Catholics for his claims. Instead of just going directly to official Catholic teaching only and disagreeing with that he does this.

He should check his facts as this link illustrates
catholic.com/thisrock/1995/9509drag.asp

God Bless
Scylla
 
Robert in SD:
Oh yeah, well I ran across *this *site and wanted to know what *you *think about what it says. They *also *seem to have some very good points, and can back it up with scripture. 😃

Vatican

P.S. The above is sarcasm. All kidding aside, I think you need to be a bit more specific with your question.
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Ah haha, I love it! That’s great! 😉
 
Robert in SD:
Oh yeah, well I ran across *this * site and wanted to know what *you * think about what it says. They *also * seem to have some very good points, and can back it up with scripture. 😃

Vatican

P.S. The above is sarcasm. All kidding aside, I think you need to be a bit more specific with your question.
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Hi
You may think that I’m kidding, but I’m not. It is also not meant as sarcasm. This is the first time I have seen this site. The points that they make about infalability seem to make sense and I was wondering what you thought about them.
Thanks
 
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NonDenom:
Hi
I’m not wanting to argue any point. This site just makes alot of point of interest about the pope and what the Catholic church believes. I was asking what you thought about the things they
say, after you have read them.
Thanks
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Taking information about the Pope from this page is like taking information about the Israelies from the Palestinians.
 
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NonDenom:
Hi
You may think that I’m kidding, but I’m not. It is also not meant as sarcasm. This is the first time I have seen this site. The points that they make about infalability seem to make sense and I was wondering what you thought about them.
Thanks
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OK, I’ll make one last attempt to focus the question. What claim against infallibility “makes sense” to you? Please be specific.
 
Did you read the link that I posted about infallibility? This addresses pretty much everything that is posted on this website. This website you posted isn’t concerned about truth but trying to debunk the Catholic belief in infallibility, without attempting to understand it.

What questions did you have on infallibility and what point did he make that wasn’t answered. There is an answer to every question about the Catholic faith, feel free to ask the question.

God Bless
Scylla
 
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Lazerlike42:
Are they really Church of Christ? Like officially? Or do you mean it says all the things COC would say? I’ve spent a LOT of time there and got the impression it was just some non-denom church somewhere.
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If you want to test it, go to the part of the site that lists churches in your area. It will only list Churches of Christ.
 
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