TRUMp and TRUMan, Biden and Dewey

[HomeschoolDad]

This is one of the issues of course troubling the UK, everyone keeps bouncing on about the naughty Muslims having too many kids, but in fact their fertility rate is just about where a ‘normal’ family was when I was a small kid and as a result we now have a situation beginning to wander towards the Japanese model where negative population growth is predicted. In my home country of Ireland you have population growth but that was mainly driven in recent years by a lot of immigration from Poland etc. That’s changed the demographics of the places as well and when someone did a news report on Irish TV the other day about kids looking at the names of victims of the Spanish Flu it was noticeable how many kids on screen had names like Natalia and Stanislaw, it was quite funny watching one girl with the former name. She had a very broad Dublin accent but then switched to Polish to talk to her friend for a minute who asked her a question. But that’s beginning to slow down. In a sense not a bad thing as Ireland could never support a massive population but it does, like the UK, need a replacement one who will care for older people and the mentality of that being the right thing to do imbued in people when young.
[/quote]

You have to have at least a modestly increasing population, whether by birth or by immigration, otherwise your society doesn’t work right. Contraception is the “secret sauce” that makes the modern world go around, but when people contracept themselves below replacement level, well, that’s a problem, and you don’t have to view it from a faith background to be able to see that.

I don’t even want to hear it, when those demographics that are contracepting themselves out of existence are replaced by those demographics who have more children, and the contraceptors see themselves being outnumbered and ruled by these people, and get themselves into a snit over it. Indeed, "the meek shall inherit the earth".

 

[HomeschoolDad]

HomeschoolDad:

Can’t be helped. Society can do what it can do, but there will always be limits. My cousin’s having to wait might have been what killed him. No way to know. He was cremated, so no autopsy would ever be possible.

And people who can’t afford health care in this country die of that, too. People die in both market-based and socialized medical systems, it’s just different people.

Medicaid is “need based”; that is, one cannot get it if one’s income or assets are over a certain limit. If above, then Obamacare subsidizes it up to an income of $80,000 for a family of four. Over a hundred million have employment based care. What compelling reason is there to change it all to a Medicaid-type system that will require a lot more in the way of taxes?

In this country, if ACA can hold steady, there really isn’t one. We may already have the best system. (Full disclosure: I benefit from ACA.)

And will it be free to people regardless of income? If so, what is the justification for that? Are we to buy their cars and food too?

No. Many of these countries have social solidarity, and everyone is expected to do their part. The Scandinavian concepts of janteloven and lagom shame the would-be slackers into not being slackers. America, taken as a whole — not just its balkanized identity groups — doesn’t have social solidarity. People in monocultural small towns may have this kind of solidarity, people who live in communities where everybody’s been there forever and families go back generations may have it, but as far as the country as a whole, no. That’s a problem as well.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

This is why it ticks me of as well, it was once the cry about Catholics in the UK and how we ‘bred like rabbits’ so every time I hear this rubbish I think of that.
[/quote]

I do think there is a strong racial element to the hectoring tut-tuts of “don’t they know what causes that?”. If a couple chooses to have a large family, and if they can support that family without asking the taxpayer for anything, whose business is it but theirs?

Sounds like a “fear of ‘the other’ in large numbers” to me.

Both of my parents were “oops babies” from large families, the youngest of each, born years after my grandparents thought they were done having children. (They weren’t Catholic.) I’m pretty glad things worked out that way, myself… otherwise I wouldn’t be here!

 

[CaptFun]

I don’t know who will win this election, but the Trump side is easily the most enthusiastic.

They don’t LOOK like people whose team is trailing late in the game with all that smiling and flag waving and boat parading and semi- spontaneous rallies with no speakers … just flash mobbing along Pacific Coast Highway ad Freeway overpasses or driving around in trucks or convertibles displaying big Trump or MAGA flags (and waving their entire hands instead of just one finger). :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Most “good natured” Biden thing I’ve seen was MAGA hat that on close inspection read:

Make
A*****e
Go
Away!

I enjoy the funny ones more than the spray can graffiti and shooting midnight fireworks into
neighborhoods, I’ll tell you.

So far … locally here in bluety blue state California … the Trump side has an edge in the teasing wars from what I’ve seen. 2 examples of slogans are:

Hidem Barris-ed
and
Ban Joe Kamal

If you have a funny Democrat teasing joke please post it/them*.

• please conservatives don’t post pics of Democrat leaders in midblink.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

I don’t know who will win this election, but the Trump side is easily the most enthusiastic.

They don’t LOOK like people whose team is trailing late in the game with all that smiling and flag waving and boat parading and semi- spontaneous rallies with no speakers … just flash mobbing along Pacific Coast Highway ad Freeway overpasses or driving around in trucks or convertibles displaying big Trump or MAGA flags (and waving their entire hands instead of just one finger).

Most “good natured” Biden thing I’ve seen was MAGA hat that on close inspection read:

Make
A*****e
Go
Away!

I enjoy the funny ones more than the spray can graffiti and shooting midnight fireworks into
neighborhoods, I’ll tell you.

So far … locally here in bluety blue state California … the Trump side has an edge in the teasing wars from what I’ve seen. 2 examples of slogans are:

Hidem Barris-ed
and
Ban Joe Kamal

If you have a funny Democrat teasing joke please post it/them*.

• please conservatives don’t post pics of Democrat leaders in midblink.

I thought of making a bumper sticker that says

“DOGMA TRUMPS KARMA”

But then it occurred to me… our neighbors’ young daughter is named Karma! Don’t know how they spell it, I’ve only heard it spoken, but still, wouldn’t be quite the thing to display in our driveway.

 

[CaptFun]

I see your slogan and raise you this rebus!

regnant_woman:t4: :black_joker:s

dog
ma
trumps
camel
la

:vulcan_salute:t4: live long and prosper

 

[JanR]

We must take nothing for granted. If it’s an HONEST election, Mr. Trump should win by a landslide. Throw in enough cheating and fraud, and unfair and unwise court decisions, and it could turn Biden’s way. Then again, if it’s a landslide victory for Mr. Trump, those factors may not be enough to change the outcome.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed. I’ve already voted, and so has hubby. If Mr. Trump loses, it won’t be on account of us.

Let’s pray this election is HONEST all the way. Or, at least, honest enough.

 

[CaptFun]

As I try to make heads or tails of the polls …

… maybe all the Biden folks are sequestered at home and picking up their landlines to BE polled …

… while pro-Trump peoples’ phones just ringity ring with no answer …

… while they are out at the massive local TRUMP rallies with everybody else in town.

For a team that’s supposedly down with the clock running out … that throng of Trumpsters look mighty happy, positive and enthused.

The bunches of street rioters, vandals, flag n Bible burners, cop baiters and midnight bullhorn screamers … uh … not so much.

 

[LilyM]

As I try to make heads or tails of the polls …

… maybe all the Biden folks are sequestered at home and picking up their landlines to BE polled …

… while pro-Trump peoples’ phones just ringity ring with no answer …

… while they are out at the massive local TRUMP rallies with everybody else in town.

For a team that’s supposedly down with the clock running out … that throng of Trumpsters look mighty happy, positive and enthused.

The bunches of street rioters, vandals, flag n Bible burners, cop baiters and midnight bullhorn screamers … uh … not so much.

You think it’s only Biden supporters who are amassing arms in expectation of riots? They certainly aren’t allegedly harassing Biden campaign buses. They aren’t whipping up unrest by talking about pre-emptively trying to knock out the very postal votes which are widely expected to favour Biden.

 

[Jeanne_S]

This is my prayer as well

 

[CaptFun]

Glad of your rebuttal.

I did see the little Trump truckers (not semi-s, pickups) flyin’ flags and riding next to and behind the Biden Bus.

I don’t THINK Biden was ON that bus. Or that the bus got pulled over by the group. Though it looked like a couple of the distracted prankster drivers almost bumped one another at one point.

Some cities (DC) are boarding up their store windows in anticipation of … uh … some kinda trouble post-election. Whst could that be?

Hope all is at LEAST as tame as four years ago.

Although I may not be recalling the worst of the misbehaviors.

 

[godisgood77]

Biden will absolutely win the majority of votes nationally.

Same ole story… FL, PA, MI, WI MN

AZ, GA and NC are the others…

Let’s wait and see.

 

[godisgood77]

“DOGMA TRUMPS KARMA”

My Karma ran over my Dogma