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Rockoh22
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This is great news. I pray for peace most nights.
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Mtatum1958
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And now The Atlantic suggests this award should be eliminated.
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7_Sorrows
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Are any of the mainstream news channels reporting this news?
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7_Sorrows
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Should that come as a shock?
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Mtatum1958
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I’m dumbfounded 
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KMC
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Serious TDS at the Atlantic
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EmilyAlexandra
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To put this in perspective, it is worth noting who is entitled to nominate people for the prize:
- members of national assemblies
- members of governments
- members of international courts of law
- university chancellors
- professors of social science, history, philosophy, law, and theology
- leaders of peace research institutes and institutes of foreign affairs
- previous Nobel Peace Prize Laureates
- board members of organizations that have received the Nobel Peace Prize
- present and past members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee
- former advisers of the Norwegian Nobel Institute
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7_Sorrows
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President Trump has accomplished something to earn
a nomination which is more than can be said for Barack Obama.
a nomination which is more than can be said for Barack Obama.
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Theo520
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Too funny, too predictable
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CradleRC58
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The Atlantic belongs next to High Times on the rack.
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Zzyzx_Road
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Ever since Obama got one for virtually nothing and subsequently proved to be a war monger, this Prize has ceased to be meaningful for many of us.
The rabid anti-Trumpers actually have a point here. Just not the one they wanted to make. End the prize? Sure, let’s cast aspersions on Obama’s prize while we’re at it.
The rabid anti-Trumpers actually have a point here. Just not the one they wanted to make. End the prize? Sure, let’s cast aspersions on Obama’s prize while we’re at it.
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Horton
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What did Obama do to earn the prize? I’ve never really know why exactly he was chosen.
@EmilyAlexandra So those handful of people having issues in their past makes all of them suspect? Sounds so dismissive, as though the Nobel Peace Prize means nothing. A lot like a child who doesn’t get picked first for a game saying, “I don’t want to play anyway!” while stomping away.
LeafByNiggle
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As we should see from @EmilyAlexandra’s post above, being nominated for it is very different from winning it. Obama did win it. After Trump wins it then you can celebrate with some justification. But just being nominated - not so much.
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Victoria33
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Can you tell us where Obama brought peace please? What was this for?
The Ethiopian Prime Minister, Aby Ahmed won the peace prize, 180 protesters killed over the past few months and Ethiopia is falling apart.
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Having said that, I think he may well be a good man; but obviously, peace is wanting there and some part of the nation is not even under Ethiopian control.
With all due respect to all, I think it was because he was the first bi-racial President. I don’t think the achievement goes beyond this.
I will celebrate Trump’s achievements with no prize. Helping with many others stop ISIS who rose to power after Obama withdrew troops from Iraq.
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EmilyAlexandra
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I’m not sure that I understand you. I am just pointing out that being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize means virtually nothing. All that it requires is being nominated by one of the people qualified to make nominations. That includes every member of the legislatures and governments of 193 countries (and presumably some officials at the Holy See) and every judge belonging to some two dozen international courts. As for universities, estimates of the number of universities in the world range from 20,000 to 40,000, which means that there must be hundreds of thousands of chancellors and professors across five academic disciplines. Many of these people will be fairly unremarkable; some will be of rather dubious character.
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Horton
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That’s insane! When I think of a prize like this I think of people who actually made real change in the world, where their life’s work or mission was to make things better for all. I always think of Mother Teresa when I hear Nobel Peace Prize and what she did for the world.Horton:
With all due respect to all, I think it was because he was the first bi-racial President. I don’t think the achievement goes beyond this.
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Rockoh22
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This literally makes no sense. You guys are discussing about who can nominate and people with shady past, who nominate. Come on. This is a huge step for peace. Why? Because the Middle East has been unstable for a really long time.
The Peace Prize nomination is for a reason…
What reason? Actual peace treaties.
Is it perfect? Nope.
IS there more to do? yes sir. But this is a good step.
Can it backfire? Possible
Who would have thought 20 years ago that Middle East peace would take shape in our lifetime?
The Peace Prize nomination is for a reason…
What reason? Actual peace treaties.
Is it perfect? Nope.
IS there more to do? yes sir. But this is a good step.
Can it backfire? Possible
Who would have thought 20 years ago that Middle East peace would take shape in our lifetime?
LeafByNiggle
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If you are on the Nobel committee, I suggest you make that argument when the topic comes up. Or write them right now and see if you can convince them. But convincing us does nothing to win Trump the prize.
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Rockoh22
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The prize is the least of this news. The reality is the real reason. Peace!
Normalizing relations in the Middle East is tricky business. Trump getting the Prize, is cool, but the normalizations? That is Awesome!
LeafByNiggle
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Is Trump really responsible? Let’s see what Martin Indyk, Distinguished Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and former U.S. Ambassador to Israel and U.S. Special Envoy for Israeli-Palestinian Negotiations thinks:
Trump’s Accidental Diplomacy in the Middle East
How a botched peace plan produced the Abraham Accord.
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