Trying to identify a particular Our Father

[dreater]

Help!

We’ve been trying to identify a particular musical setting of the Our Father.

All I can tell you (without singing the thing, which is difficult on a message board!) is that this Our Father was used regularly at the 4:15 PM folk mass at Penn State in the period 1979-1983. We have not been able to find this piece in any current hymnal. (I’ve got copies of Gather Comprehensive, Adoremus, Collegeville, and the OCP stuff…)

Any leads would by very welcome!

 

[Almeria]

Try asking the church there, and see if there is anyone around who was there at the time. An old parish secretary, or possibly even the old music director. They probably should have records of who led the music back then anyway–if you had the name, you could try finding that person.

 

[puzzleannie]

Jamaican OF, with regular refrain “hallowed by Thy Name” repeated several times? DD was at Penn St but attended OL Victory (naturally this is Joe Pat’s parish) much better liturgy

 

[dreater]

puzzleannie:

Jamaican OF, with regular refrain “hallowed by Thy Name” repeated several times? DD was at Penn St but attended OL Victory (naturally this is Joe Pat’s parish) much better liturgy

No, not that one.

"Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses.

As we forgive those who trespass against us, Father hear our prayer.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us, deliver us, from all that is evil, hear our prayer."

 

[pm1853]

‘Father hear our prayer’ during the Lord’s Prayer? Thats a new one.

Puzzleannie- My home parish breaks out the Hallowed Be Thy Name one every Christmas eve. How many guitars does a church really need?

Dreater- What was the musical setting like? Do you remember things like the meter (4/4, 3/4, 6/8 etc…) , if it was major or minor or (since its from a folk setting) modal in some way?. I’d be shocked if it was in Adoremus, try more things alongs the lines of OCP or the more contemporary GIA hymnals (including perhaps RitualSong…that hymnal is a strange mix of stuff and it could very well be in there).

If you live near a college with a music program, perhaps you could find a specialist on liturgical music and ask him or her. Or you could check out the music library, most have a collection of hymnals that are pretty extensive (if its the Library of Congress system, M 2000 is the beginning of the Religious music and I think hymnals are around M 2050 or 2100…if its Dewey Decimal, I haven’t got a clue).

Also, try asking around at other churches. I’m sure that someone has done this setting before.

 

[pm1853]

PS-I must apologize if my first 2 lines were kind of snippy. I have a particular loathing for that arrangement (“Hallowed be thy, hallowed by thy name” with the bongos and everything). Do try a music library though, you’d be surprised what you can find. Call numbers will begin at M 2110-ish. Good luck.

 

[puzzleannie]

pm1853:

PS-I must apologize if my first 2 lines were kind of snippy. I have a particular loathing for that arrangement (“Hallowed be thy, hallowed by thy name” with the bongos and everything). Do try a music library though, you’d be surprised what you can find. Call numbers will begin at M 2110-ish. Good luck.

me too, but probably my reaction is not so much against the song as against the setting in which I have heard it used, namely a Mass with so many other liturgical abuses that holding hands and swaying during the Our Father seemed almost normal. I recently got a reggae Christian music CD that has Awesome God and all the standard revival type songs, HS kids love it.