Trying to shake a resentment

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There is a lady at church who is organizing a fund raiser. It is on the same night as my favorite work out. She told me about it over 2 months ago. At the time my exact words were ‘Too bad I won’t be able to go, it is my favourite work out that night’ To which she responded ‘Oh no Angie, I need you to help with the work you are coming’. In the heat of the moment (and in front of everyone) I was too shy to say ‘no’ or I couldn’t think fast enough of something polite so I said ‘OK’

As the date is approaching, I am really starting to dread going to this fund raiser since it si an activity I don’t care for and I REALLY love my favourite work out at the gym. On the other hand, I don’t want to cancel on her at the last minute since it will put her in a jam and it is not my style to break a promise.

Not sure what I am looking for beside a vent
 
Tell her NOW that you aren’t doing it, or suck it up and go help.
There is a lady at church who is organizing a fund raiser. It is on the same night as my favorite work out. She told me about it over 2 months ago. At the time my exact words were ‘Too bad I won’t be able to go, it is my favourite work out that night’ To which she responded ‘Oh no Angie, I need you to help with the work you are coming’. In the heat of the moment (and in front of everyone) I was too shy to say ‘no’ or I couldn’t think fast enough of something polite so I said ‘OK’

As the date is approaching, I am really starting to dread going to this fund raiser since it si an activity I don’t care for and I REALLY love my favourite work out at the gym. On the other hand, I don’t want to cancel on her at the last minute since it will put her in a jam and it is not my style to break a promise.

Not sure what I am looking for beside a vent
 
Favorite workout? :confused: I’m not even sure what that means, but I guess that isn’t really important. If you tell her now that you don’t want to go to the fundraiser, will she have enough time to find another volunteer?
 
Is it possible she was being “nice” to you - couldn’t not ask you for you participation? Could it be she was acting as a people pleaser to you?

None the less, when I’ve found myself in your situation I found two things 1) I’m not as important as I thought and 2) I’m not as important as I thought

Tell her sooner than later. Enjoy your workout!
 
There will always be someone who wants to steamroll over you to get what they want. It is important for their immortal souls that this aggression be crushed. You are the person to do it. Just ring her and tell her firmly and shortly that you can’t possibly make the charitable work as it is not your charity time. She will be very confused by what you mean and in that pause you will then call off with another call waiting. Repeat this until you are never asked again.
 
A priest often reminds us to say yes when we mean yes and say no when we mean no. I regret this person had to override your no. But stand your ground and let her know as soon as possible that you cannot be there. You wouldn’t be much help if you go and resent that you are not where you’d rather be. Wait for another fundraiser that is not on your regularly scheduled day.
 
For the future, I’d role-play this: When someone says, “Can you make this date?” you say, “Feb. 9? Sorry, no.” If they say, “why not? What are you doing?” you say, “I beg your pardon?” If they repeat themselves, you say, “I think I said, ‘sorry, no.’ That’s your answer. My datebook isn’t for public consumption.”

Now, if your boss asks you to do something during working hours and you say you cannot, of course you owe your boss an explanation for your refusal. Volunteer work is not like that. You don’t owe anyone an excuse unless you have previously created the expectation that you could be counted on.

By the way, this also follows the maxim that if you only keep your private life private when you have something to hide, whenever you try to keep something private everyone will know you’re hiding something. If you are private all of the time, then you’re just acting the same as always and you have some possibility of maintaining your privacy.

As for your resentment this time, thank yourself. She pressured you, but I wouldn’t call her extra push coercion. She said, “oh, c’mon,” and you said, “oh…OK. I’ll do it.” You can’t expect someone trying to drum up volunteers to always give up easily. And “are you sure? We really could use you” is not out of bounds. You simply say, “yes, I’m sorry, but I am sure. Thanks for wanting me, but I’m not available.” Notice I did not say, “that day.” That implies that you’ll do it if the time changes. If you mean that, say that. If not, leave the time out.

It does net her a spot on the list of those people you don’t give your reasons, lest they take that as an invitation to a debate, as if they had a right to grant or deny your excuse.
 
TBH I am surprised at the number of people who said it would be ok for you to back out. You did end up saying you would do it, that’s on you.

And seriously: favorite workout? That sounds like it comes at least once a week. You miss a week with you favorite workout and do something you don’t want to do.

Do it *well, *not resentfully. Off it up to Christ, Who asked His Father to let the cup pass Him by, and did what God wanted Him to do anyway.
 
TBH I am surprised at the number of people who said it would be ok for you to back out. You did end up saying you would do it, that’s on you.

And seriously: favorite workout? That sounds like it comes at least once a week. You miss a week with you favorite workout and do something you don’t want to do.

Do it *well, *not resentfully. Off it up to Christ, Who asked His Father to let the cup pass Him by, and did what God wanted Him to do anyway.
This. Yes.
 
I think that even though you had initially said “no”, after her persistence, you committed yourself to it. Next time your faced with something like this, you can hold firm in your response with a simple “no, I really can’t”. And end it there.
 
TBH I am surprised at the number of people who said it would be ok for you to back out. You did end up saying you would do it, that’s on you.

And seriously: favorite workout? That sounds like it comes at least once a week. You miss a week with you favorite workout and do something you don’t want to do.

Do it *well, *not resentfully. Off it up to Christ, Who asked His Father to let the cup pass Him by, and did what God wanted Him to do anyway.
I think that even though you had initially said “no”, after her persistence, you committed yourself to it. Next time your faced with something like this, you can hold firm in your response with a simple “no, I really can’t”. And end it there.
+1

I have a favorite work out. I get it. But, you caved. Sorry, but I think it’s too late to back out.
 
TBH I am surprised at the number of people who said it would be ok for you to back out. You did end up saying you would do it, that’s on you.

And seriously: favorite workout? That sounds like it comes at least once a week. You miss a week with you favorite workout and do something you don’t want to do.

Do it *well, *not resentfully. Off it up to Christ, Who asked His Father to let the cup pass Him by, and did what God wanted Him to do anyway.
Yep, 100 percent. You think I want to always help the youth program when a football game is on? But I committed to do it.
Next time use your backbone and say no, but not this time, you already committed
 
I agree that you should go - and keep your thoughts of yourself as the kind of person that doesn’t break a promise.

And I agree with EasterJoy. When you say “no”, don’t give a reason. All it can accomplish is making the other person feel that their activity is less important than yours. And you don’t want to get into a debate or discussion about it.

(And if even your reason was something silly like - "Wednesday nights are the only night I get a chance to put my feet up and watch old episodes of “The Love Boat”, it would be still be your decision. Why get into a discussion about it?)

I find it is far kinder to just say “I’m sorry, but I can’t make it.”

In fact, when I’m throwing a party and someone feels like they have to give me a bunch of reasons why they can’t come, I just interpret it as they don’t really want to come - and they are giving me a barrage of things hoping that something will stick.

If you really feel like you can’t go, then tell her as soon as possible, and don’t give a reason.
 
You guys have persuaded me that she ought to go if she agreed, even under duress.

Go, help, and remember to stand up for yourself next time.
 
TBH I am surprised at the number of people who said it would be ok for you to back out. You did end up saying you would do it, that’s on you.

And seriously: favorite workout? That sounds like it comes at least once a week. You miss a week with you favorite workout and do something you don’t want to do.

Do it *well, *not resentfully. Off it up to Christ, Who asked His Father to let the cup pass Him by, and did what God wanted Him to do anyway.
I was going to say the same thing. You already committed yourself, even if it was done under pressure. And I especially agree that you should offer it up to Christ. Think of the eternal reward you will get in heaven–far better than any workout, no matter how wonderful, could ever give you.
 
TBH I am surprised at the number of people who said it would be ok for you to back out. You did end up saying you would do it, that’s on you.

And seriously: favorite workout? That sounds like it comes at least once a week. You miss a week with you favorite workout and do something you don’t want to do.

Do it *well, *not resentfully. Off it up to Christ, Who asked His Father to let the cup pass Him by, and did what God wanted Him to do anyway.
Yes! Next time, don’t agree to something even if you’re put on the spot, but don’t back out of commitments (unless there’s a good reason to do so).
 
You guys have persuaded me that she ought to go if she agreed, even under duress.

Go, help, and remember to stand up for yourself next time.
Of course she ought to be there as she promised. No question.

Now, if she had called this woman the day after she said, “yes” and explained, “you know, I’ve changed my mind about doing the X. I told you ‘no,’ you pressured me and told me my reason wasn’t good enough, I caved in, but I should have stood my ground. I initially said, ‘no,’ and my answer is ‘no.’ The choice was mine, and I’m sticking with my original choice. Period. I’m sorry, but don’t do that to me again. I didn’t appreciate it.” When she made that call, however, she had to be 100% committed to sticking with her guns no matter what kind of guilt trips she got and no matter what kind of shunning this woman might try on her (since some people will use the silent treatment when they’re not allowed to run other people’s decisions).

As it is, she has essentially said “yes” every day that has gone by since she initially said, “no.” She cannot back out now, not without earning a reputation as being unreliable and–since the reason she gave for backing out is merely to please herself better with how she uses her time, rather than a more substantial reason–a bit self-centered.

More to the point, though, she has let someone come to rely on her. Stick in there, and when you are being counted on, come through as promised.
 
Actually, I think you always have the right to change your mind.

I don’t think you should have to volunteer when you were pressured into it and you caved in. So what?

People like this woman really bug me. You said ‘no’ and that was not enough for her. I would call her and say “I’ve been thinking about it and I really do not want to volunteer on this occasion so I am backing out”. She’ll probably be mad. So what? Who wants to be friends with someone who pressures you into doing things you don’t want to do?

You could possibly say to her “I will be glad to help you out beforehand if you need me, but I do have plans at the gym for that night”. And maybe you can offer to help out after your workout if you feel like it. But you shouldn’t feel bad because you prefer to work out. You don’t need other people’s approval to do what you like to do.
 
Actually, I think you always have the right to change your mind.

I don’t think you should have to volunteer when you were pressured into it and you caved in. So what?

People like this woman really bug me. You said ‘no’ and that was not enough for her. I would call her and say “I’ve been thinking about it and I really do not want to volunteer on this occasion so I am backing out”. She’ll probably be mad. So what? Who wants to be friends with someone who pressures you into doing things you don’t want to do?

You could possibly say to her “I will be glad to help you out beforehand if you need me, but I do have plans at the gym for that night”. And maybe you can offer to help out after your workout if you feel like it. But you shouldn’t feel bad because you prefer to work out. You don’t need other people’s approval to do what you like to do.
I think you haven’t been in the position of trying to get enough volunteers to staff a parish project. Many of people in that position bend over backwards to try not to pressure anyone, but many others find that a little push to get people out of their comfort zone can lead to a volunteer who was glad they went beyond what they were originally willing to do.

As for “She’ll probably be mad. So what? Who wants to be friends with someone who pressures you into doing things you don’t want to do?” this is not just about thinking about what this is going to do to your social life. It is about not letting down someone whom you told could rely on you. That is called integrity.

Now, Angie could have called the woman the next day and said, “I didn’t want to have a confrontation in front of everyone, so I just went along with you, but I’m here to tell you I am NOT going to be there and you had better NOT pull a stunt like that again. That was unacceptable, you know how I feel, so don’t do it again.” It would be OK to express anger over such a blunt contradiction of the initial refusal and it would be OK to not be too concerned if the woman was not happy to get the correction.

Your idea about calling this woman and asking if she could be flexible about time because you would like to slide your schedule around, however, is a good one. Many people do that, and as long as you are willing to get “no” for an answer, it doesn’t hurt to ask. Sometimes, the organizer finds that the slot you took was the easy one to fill whereas other slots are proving hard to fill. Check in about whether changing times works for the organizer. It can’t hurt to ask, provided you don’t pull your promised contribution without having really been forced by circumstance to do it. Again: That is about having integrity, not about trying to get other people to like you.

Organizers of projects staffed by volunteers ought to take note, however: People you pushed into signing up to help are far more likely to flake out on you. That is predictable. It is tempting to push, but don’t do it. People will resent you, both the people there who really don’t want to be there and the people who are left running your project short-handed because so many of your volunteers let their resentment become an excuse to leave you in the lurch. The next time you try to get volunteers, people will run the other way when they see you coming.
 
TBH I am surprised at the number of people who said it would be ok for you to back out. You did end up saying you would do it, that’s on you.

And seriously: favorite workout? That sounds like it comes at least once a week. You miss a week with you favorite workout and do something you don’t want to do.

Do it *well, *not resentfully. Off it up to Christ, Who asked His Father to let the cup pass Him by, and did what God wanted Him to do anyway.
I agree with this. Well, at least it is the path I would take forward in this situation. And then next time, if I really didn’t want to rearrange my date book, I would say no simply, and not give an explanation of what I already had planned. That just opens you up to a person with different priorities deciding that they want to call into question your priorities and assuming what they need you for is more important than what you already had planned. The less information you share with some people, the better. And now you know how this person will treat your time, so you can be on guard against future conflicts. Good luck!
 
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