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1cthlctrth
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There is a huge exodus out of California, New York, and the out-of-control cities ruled by Democratic Party mayors. I’ll never understand why these people continue to bring their leftist values to their voting habits.
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JanR
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Has life improved in Democrat-run cities? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Do we need ask?
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Nepperhan
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I live is a city run by Democrats (although the mayors’ race is non-partisan). Things have improved. So the answer is yes.
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Roselle
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Interesting video, I enjoyed watching. I didn’t know that about Selma, Alabama. Sad to see that the city is now so run down, with nearly 50% of the population living in poverty.
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Leo2014
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I would like to know where you acquired your data?
Regardless of rural or urban, every place will have issues.
However, the reality is that by 2040, seventy percent of Americans will live in the fifteen largest states and within their urban areas. The Populist movement that we are experiencing, tends to think that we can reverse this trend in the favor of rural areas. But, Pandora’s box has been open.
Isolationism is not the answer. First of all, because we live within a Global Society. That fact that we can all chat with each other without the constraint of borders is proof of that statement. Besides, Corporate America loves cheap labor and feels no obligation to patronage.
What should be concerning is the growing economic divides that are creating problems in both rural and urban regions. Those problems have not been constraint by party affiliations.
Mark121359
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Tucker: Has life improved in Democrat-run cities?
Huh??? In Baltimore…where I live? Now that’s hilarious!!!
Huh??? In Baltimore…where I live? Now that’s hilarious!!!
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YADA
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Perhaps not exaclty “data” but these moving shifts are in the news:
The Seattle article doesn’t gel with the argument.
“The most popular destinations for those leaving Seattle are Phoenix, Ariz.,; Sacramento, Calif.; Los Angeles and Las Vegas, the report found.”
Those are all democrat run cities.
The NYC article is behind a paywall but googling I found that people were moving from NYC to the suburbs and various places not based on the politics.
“The most popular destinations for those leaving Seattle are Phoenix, Ariz.,; Sacramento, Calif.; Los Angeles and Las Vegas, the report found.”
Those are all democrat run cities.
The NYC article is behind a paywall but googling I found that people were moving from NYC to the suburbs and various places not based on the politics.
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YADA
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Okay … one out of three 
proves that people are not moving from liberal bastions? … YOU asked a question - as if a poster was making things up - but people leaving [moving from] these places - has been in the news … I just noted the recent articles on leaving current places identified that have been suffering political unrest from the places noted … I guess I could have read hundreds of articles for you … but I think you surely had heard/read similarly news reports … and your question was meant to cast doubt …
I could not post radio news stories - but I have heard radio reports news on the costs of moving vans for people leaving Seattle, San Francisco and New York being many times the cost of the reverse … that you can rent moving vans from places like Florida, Texas and Idaho for far less than the cost to move from New York, San Francisco and New York … This was a big story about a week ago … as I traveled three hours [six round trip] about 4 days apart and heard similar news both days…
proves that people are not moving from liberal bastions? … YOU asked a question - as if a poster was making things up - but people leaving [moving from] these places - has been in the news … I just noted the recent articles on leaving current places identified that have been suffering political unrest from the places noted … I guess I could have read hundreds of articles for you … but I think you surely had heard/read similarly news reports … and your question was meant to cast doubt …I could not post radio news stories - but I have heard radio reports news on the costs of moving vans for people leaving Seattle, San Francisco and New York being many times the cost of the reverse … that you can rent moving vans from places like Florida, Texas and Idaho for far less than the cost to move from New York, San Francisco and New York … This was a big story about a week ago … as I traveled three hours [six round trip] about 4 days apart and heard similar news both days…
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Leo2014
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I am certain the pandemic does not help?
But the reality is that you are referencing regions that have millions of residence. Therefore, any up shift in movement can be described as an “exodus”? But what is the conclusion; we are better off moving to some small towns that are heavily depended on one employer or government support? Many or most of the good paying jobs have left those areas and are not coming back.
The reality is that young people want to migrate in the direction were there are opportunities. Urban regions attract many of the smartest people on the planet. You and I have benefited from their innovations.
However, it is easy to contrapose that message with the ones of people leaving the region in failure and finding themselves in disparaging conditions.
It is good that these concerns make the news. But it is important that they are not fodder for tribal epistemology; identity politics were the message is merely to support a misdirected concept that what we do is right and everything they do is wrong. That would be totally misleading…
Well, from the fire into the frying pan.
LeafByNiggle
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Well, that kind of undercut’s YADA’s and 1cthlctrth’s arguments, doesn’t it?Motherwit:
Well, from the fire into the frying pan.
Clearly Seattle is worse than these others, particularly Las Vegas. You don’t see them moving to Portland, or Minneapolis for exampleJonNC:
Well, that kind of undercut’s YADA’s and 1cthlctrth’s arguments, doesn’t it?Motherwit:
Well, from the fire into the frying pan.
Maybe their just smart enough to move away from where Antifa blackshirts are the worst.
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Peeps
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I don’t think life has “improved” in any city in the U.S. Life has always been, and still is, a struggle and a hardship for many of us.
If it’s not money woes, it’s our health, or our elderly loved ones, or employers, or our local economy, or our schools, or the “mob” (which operates quite successfully under both Democrats and Republicans, and manages to recruit a lot of people through their street gangs).
Or a pandemic, which, contrary to the media, was NOT caused by Pres. Trump, or by Democrat opposition to Pres. Trump.
A good life doesn’t come courtesy of the government and their policies.
A good life happens when people follow God and sincerely try to obey His teachings as revealed through the Church and the Bible. As a Christian, I know that even when life is just miserable due to personal health, money, or family woes–we still have hope, and we can still live a righteous and loving life to the best of our ability with the constant help of the Holy Spirit and the intercession of all the angels and saints!
I know people who are very very poor and ill, too–but they are full of the Joy of the Lord, and they would tell you that they have the very BEST life! I want to be like these people.
That being said, I think that part of living a righteous life is to obey our rulers and work through our government to attempt to bring about changes that would help those who are suffering from various misfortunes. Protesting is all very fine and well, but it’s basically just noise and accomplishes very little. The work of bringing about good changes will happen through slow and patient petitioning of our duly-elected officials over a period of time tnrough all the channels open to us (letters, phone calls, petitions, hiring lobbyists, emails, etc.). Holding a homemade sign, marching, and singing/shouting slogans really doesn’t do much of anything. In the end, it’s the slow and faithful tortoise that will win, not the flashy hare.
If it’s not money woes, it’s our health, or our elderly loved ones, or employers, or our local economy, or our schools, or the “mob” (which operates quite successfully under both Democrats and Republicans, and manages to recruit a lot of people through their street gangs).
Or a pandemic, which, contrary to the media, was NOT caused by Pres. Trump, or by Democrat opposition to Pres. Trump.
A good life doesn’t come courtesy of the government and their policies.
A good life happens when people follow God and sincerely try to obey His teachings as revealed through the Church and the Bible. As a Christian, I know that even when life is just miserable due to personal health, money, or family woes–we still have hope, and we can still live a righteous and loving life to the best of our ability with the constant help of the Holy Spirit and the intercession of all the angels and saints!
I know people who are very very poor and ill, too–but they are full of the Joy of the Lord, and they would tell you that they have the very BEST life! I want to be like these people.
That being said, I think that part of living a righteous life is to obey our rulers and work through our government to attempt to bring about changes that would help those who are suffering from various misfortunes. Protesting is all very fine and well, but it’s basically just noise and accomplishes very little. The work of bringing about good changes will happen through slow and patient petitioning of our duly-elected officials over a period of time tnrough all the channels open to us (letters, phone calls, petitions, hiring lobbyists, emails, etc.). Holding a homemade sign, marching, and singing/shouting slogans really doesn’t do much of anything. In the end, it’s the slow and faithful tortoise that will win, not the flashy hare.
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