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No! Why’d you bump this thread? People will think I’m talking about the Washington Mass. 😃

If an admin could retitle this “Vespers at the National Basilica”, I would very much appreciate it.
 
The mass at the Nationals stadium was a most beautiful NOVUS ORDO mass.
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Deacon Ed B
 
brotherhrolf said:
Wow! :extrahappy: I have been sitting here watching and singing my little heart out! Does anyone know whose setting of the Magnificat that was? And the Pater Noster!!! Haven’t sung that in many a year! That was just splendid!
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The main part of the Magnificat is the traditional Latin chant - that also used in traditional Vespers for centuries, and indeed now. 🙂 The last part, the Sicut erat in principio - I don’t know.

But did you people notice - ***it was ad-orientem ***- the Holy Father put in incense and incensed the altar facing the same way as the people (/Cardinals and Bishops 🙂 ). And the crucifix was facing the right way for ad-orientem too.
 
The contrast between last night and this morning is extreme.

Deacon Ed - while it was a beautiful Mass, the Mass took multi-culturalism to an extreme. The final blow for me came when they had the Haitian man sing in French. We have had Haitians both black and white here in south Louisiana since Touissaint L’Overture took over the country in the 1790s. Why a Haitian and not a Cajun?

Had I heard the two “hymns” in Spanish on the radio and not known Spanish, I would have considered them to be popular music.

Fr. Neuhaus’ comments on EWTN were right on the mark.
 
ProVobis said:
And CNN made a very nice commentary about that too. It was a beautiful service.
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Hopefully they waited until after the liturgy. I cannot stand the televised coverage of papal events so much that I refuse to watch them. The commentators seem to think they have to talk about *everything *right when it’s going on. There is something to be said for letting a liturgy speak for itself…even a televised one.
 
The only reason I could think of that it was Haitian and not Cajun, was that the Haitians preceded the Cajuns to Louisiana as part of the original slaves. Theirs was a creole culture. The Cajuns came from Acadia in Canada when the British expelled the Acadian Catholics who were of French extraction. . Remember the story of Evangeline and the Evangeline Oak near Lafayette. .
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Deacon Ed B
 
brotherhrolf said:
Deacon Ed - while it was a beautiful Mass, the Mass took multi-culturalism to an extreme. The final blow for me came when they had the Haitian man sing in French. We have had Haitians both black and white here in south Louisiana since Touissaint L’Overture took over the country in the 1790s. Why a Haitian and not a Cajun?
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The only reason I can think of that it would be Haitian and not Cajun would be that the Haitians preceded the Cajuns to Louisiana. Remember, the Haitian creole culture. Many were slaves from Haiti. The Cajuns did not come to Louisiana until the Acadian French Catholics were expelled from Canada much later by the British. This was in the early 1800’s The Haitian Creoles were there since the 1700’s as slaves. . Remember the story of Evangeline and the Evangeline Oak near Lafayette?
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Deacon Ed B
 
Is there a recording of the mass? I was at school, and really want to see it…
 
Deacon Ed: Ours is a creole culture here in Louisiana. I am more than familiar with the Evangeline Oak since it is on the church grounds of St Martin de Tours where many of my ancestors were baptized, confirmed, married and buried from. The Cajuns were there in the 1760s. The Haitians (black and white) didn’t come until the 1790s.

It just seems to me that the organizers of the Mass were falling all over themselves recognizing immigrant groups which have been here for over a hundred years. Philipinos? Entire villages in coastal south Louisiana in the 1880s. Chinese? Who built the railroads out west after the Civil War? Africans? (Need I say more). Vietnamese? (We’ve already ordained three priests for my diocese who grew up here). Cubans? New Orleans and Havana had always been close. The Cubans who came here in 1960 did not form a separate ethnic community - they fit right in as will the Mexican workers flocking here after Katrina.

What I came away with from the Offertory prayers was a profound sense of strain…“oh look at our huddled masses”…It was all a bit too…too.
 
I will bow to your knowledge of the time frames and dates. They were quite specific, whereas mine were approximate. That said, I did not hear anything in Polish. Thats my culture along with Cajun. I am 50% each. How’s that for a mix. I am very comfortable with each. If we were looking for every ethnic culture, how about the native Americans. Each different tribe is a different culture. My point is that they hit some, obviously not all. Those that they missed should not take umbrage with that fact, as we are all in it a children of God and heirs of the kingdom of heaven.
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Deacon Ed B
 
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