Turning Muslim in Texas

[Malachi4U]

Great propaganda video. They must use the same advertizing agency the Mormons started useing in the 80’s?

 

[a_cermak]

Hadith:

But you must understand that Allah is soverign over man, we are called to submit and the treaties we must make absolutely have to take Allah’s word into consideration. \QUOTE]

Yes, but not after the treaty has been signed. Once a treaty is signed it must be followed or abrogated entirely with due warning, at least that was the belief of Umar ibn Abdul Aziz.

Hadith:

Out of curiosity, when you are on the computer is there a man in the house? In my family women do not use the computer without moral guidance. But I wonder about your culture. Thank you.

In my culture, I am a Chicagoan, the genders are equivalent socially, legally, culturally and religiously. In fact, the vicar of my church is a woman.

I’ve noted that there are women theologians in Iran who are becoming recognized as good scholars.

Pax,
Amy

 

[Franze]

I hope they come back to the catholic church, because Christ is God and not a prophet.

 

[discipleofJesus]

Hadith:

If they are Muslim life as they know it is over. The other thread shows a christian who is routinely attacked after church, this is because he is a convert from Islam, and apostate. He is being given time by Allah to repent and his attacks are reminders time is running out.

For a Muslim to leave the faith means to leave the entire social net. For in Islam we are not like the West, we believe Islam applies everywhere all the time in every affair of human life. When a man decides to leave the faith he is committing eternal suicide and we are called to try to recall him to his faith. A person cannot just leave Islam, it is an insult to Allah and the Ummah and cannot be allowed to stand. Surely you must understand this?

Are you kidding?

Why should former Muslims who were born into Islam (but left Islam later in their lives) be killed? How is it their fault for being born into Islam?

You expect Christians to understand (by agreeing with Muslims?) that it is OK to kill people who were formerly Muslims for the sole reason of leaving Islam? Especially, killing former Muslims who were born into Islam and left Islam later in their lives?

You expect Christians to understand (by agreeing with Muslims?) that it is OK to kill people who were formerly Muslims for the sole reason of leaving Islam for Christianity (i.e. converting to Christianity) and following the teachings and commandments of the Lord Jesus Christ? Especially, killing former Muslims who were born into Islam and converted to Christianity later in their lives?

I wonder how Muslims would react if Christians began killing former Christians, who became Muslims, for the sole reason of leaving Christianity for Islam? (don’t worry, it’s not part of the Christian religion * to kill people for leaving Christianity)*

 

[Hadith]

discipleofJesus:

Are you kidding?

Why should former Muslims who were born into Islam (but left Islam later in their lives) be killed? How is it their fault for being born into Islam?

You expect Christians to understand (by agreeing with Muslims?) that it is OK to kill people who were formerly Muslims for the sole reason of leaving Islam? Especially, killing former Muslims who were born into Islam and left Islam later in their lives?

You expect Christians to understand (by agreeing with Muslims?) that it is OK to kill people who were formerly Muslims for the sole reason of leaving Islam for Christianity (i.e. converting to Christianity) and following the teachings and commandments of the Lord Jesus Christ? Especially, killing former Muslims who were born into Islam and converted to Christianity later in their lives?

I wonder how Muslims would react if Christians began killing former Christians, who became Muslims, for the sole reason of leaving Christianity for Islam? (don’t worry, it’s not part of the Christian religion * to kill people for leaving Christianity)*

Certainly I do not joke. No I do not expect you to understand but this is why your religion is dying and Islam is growing and converting more and more of your kind. Islam is not a take it or leave it religion of pleasure and egotism, it is a religion of obedience. Muslims submit to the will of Allah and those who reject Allah reject the Ummah and they must be held accountable or we will have what you have in the west, a fractured and lazy religion open for public ridicule. Understand it or not, it is the way it is.

 

[JimG]

Christianity is also a religion of obedience. But obedience is freely given. If it is forced, it means nothing.

Forced religion may work in some places. I don’t know that it would work in Texas.

 

[Hadith]

JimG:

Christianity is also a religion of obedience. But obedience is freely given. If it is forced, it means nothing.

Forced religion may work in some places. I don’t know that it would work in Texas.

Sir,
As proud as you may be to be Texan you are clearly mistaken for Islam has already made inroads into Texas, please kindly go back to the first post of this thread and watch the video. You will see you are quite mistaken.

Islam is the wave of the future.

 

[JimG]

Sorry, I’m not a Texan, but I’ve got some relatives there.

What I meant was that under Texas law, it would not be lawful to physically attack someone simply for leaving any particular religion. That would be considered assault.

So, whether one left the Baptist religion, Catholicism, or Islam–if one’s co-religionists were to be so upset about the matter that as to physically attack the defector, I’m sure that would be against Texas law.

This was in reference to your post No. 35, in which you said: “The other thread shows a christian who is routinely attacked after church, this is because he is a convert from Islam, and apostate. He is being given time by Allah to repent and his attacks are reminders time is running out.”

 

[LittleDeb]

Hadith:

Out of curiosity, when you are on the computer is there a man in the house? In my family women do not use the computer without moral guidance. But I wonder about your culture. Thank you.

I wonder if the Muslim converts in Texas realize they have joined a religion which believes men are more moral than women. I just can’t picture any Texans believing that a man has higher moral standards than a woman simply because of gender.

 

[Franze]

Hadith:

Certainly I do not joke. No I do not expect you to understand but this is why your religion is dying and Islam is growing and converting more and more of your kind. Islam is not a take it or leave it religion of pleasure and egotism, it is a religion of obedience. Muslims submit to the will of Allah and those who reject Allah reject the Ummah and they must be held accountable or we will have what you have in the west, a fractured and lazy religion open for public ridicule. Understand it or not, it is the way it is.

The muslims practise the ostrich rule and you have to respect the right of the apostasy and the freedom of religion everywhere.

 

[melbourne_guy]

could you imagine that guy bringing his 4 veiled wives to the football match? im sorry but i cant see texas turning muslim, it would wreck there way of life and there obssesion for pork.

 

[Lance]

~~~~~~~ A person cannot just leave Islam, it is an insult to Allah and the Ummah and cannot be allowed to stand. Surely you must understand this?

No, I don’t understand. It does remind me of the song ‘Hotel California’ by The Eagles. There is a line in it that says “You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.”

By the way what or who is the Ummah?

 

[Lance]

Hadith:

Certainly I do not joke. No I do not expect you to understand but this is why your religion is dying and Islam is growing and converting more and more of your kind. Islam is not a take it or leave it religion of pleasure and egotism, it is a religion of obedience. Muslims submit to the will of Allah and those who reject Allah reject the Ummah and they must be held accountable or we will have what you have in the west, a fractured and lazy religion open for public ridicule. Understand it or not, it is the way it is.

I reject Islam and believe Mohammed was a false prophet TEXT DELETED. If Islam is so great why don’t you allow conversions? You may see a lot of people leaving it if they were not afraid for their lives. Of the 3 Muslims I know, 2 of them are Muslim in name only. They do not practice their religion and would never move back to Iran or Pakistan where they came from. They say they would be in danger of being killed for their lack of faith.

 

[Neverland]

Dear Lance,

I heard that the song is inspired by a satanic cult.

Neverland

P.S. Hadiths, can you answer why a Merciful Allah who sent prophets to mankind, want His follower to kill someone who can’t believe any longer?

 

[Lance]

Neverland:

Dear Lance,

I heard that the song is inspired by a satanic cult.

Neverland

P.S. Hadiths, can you answer why a Merciful Allah who sent prophets to mankind, want His follower to kill someone who can’t believe any longer?

Could it be that is why it sounds so much like Islam?

 

[Booklover]

Hadith:

If they are Muslim life as they know it is over. The other thread shows a christian who is routinely attacked after church, this is because he is a convert from Islam, and apostate. He is being given time by Allah to repent and his attacks are reminders time is running out.

For a Muslim to leave the faith means to leave the entire social net. For in Islam we are not like the West, we believe Islam applies everywhere all the time in every affair of human life. When a man decides to leave the faith he is committing eternal suicide and we are called to try to recall him to his faith. A person cannot just leave Islam, it is an insult to Allah and the Ummah and cannot be allowed to stand. Surely you must understand this?

No, I do not understand it at all! You Muslims profess to believe in “free will” and all your actions show the reverse. Why did God create us with intellect and the power of reasoning if we are not supposed to even think for ourselves? That is a complete denial of free will!

 

[discipleofJesus]

Yet Islam is not a religion of terror but of peace, tolerance and love?

Islam is the most peaceful, tolerant and loving religion in the world?

 

[Joseph_Alison]

Lance:

I reject Islam and believe Mohammed was a false prophet, a **pedophile **and war monger.

Is this forum moderated?

Salaam.
Joseph.

 

[discipleofJesus]

Joseph_Alison:

Is this forum moderated?

Salaam.
Joseph.

Joseph Alison,

Can you explain what your problem is with your quote of Lance?

Is it false? or something you just don’t want revealed?

Because pedophile means

“adult with sexual desire for children: an adult who has sexual desire for children or who has committed the crime of sex with a child”
encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/pedophile.html

Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl who was his wife (Aisha), when he was about 54 years old, did he not?

 

[George_Waters]

Hadith:

…your religion is dying and Islam is growing and converting more and more of your kind.

“your kind”? Islam is not converting any of our kind i.e. devout Catholics. Do you have any evidence that Catholicism or Christanity is dying? Last I checked there are still three times as many Christians as Muslims. Islam may be growing, but so is the world population so that is no surprise. Have any reliable conversion figures?